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« on: July 06, 2016, 02:06:49 PM »

How would Hillary be doing now against Trump?
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 02:09:25 PM »

No contest essentially, Clinton+15-20. But they would've come up with something else by then for sure.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 02:09:47 PM »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 02:10:22 PM »

We'd be hearing about how Hillary directed the IRS into targeting conservative groups.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 02:26:53 PM »

Yep. She'd be doing about the same, because there's always something else.
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2016, 02:30:11 PM »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.

Iraq! Iraq! Iraq!
Crime bill + Welfare reform = war on POC!
DADT + DOMA = war on LGBTQ!
These disgruntled Secret Service agents say she was rude a lot!

Not a lot to go on.  She'd be about +10 favorable and leading by 15 points.
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2016, 02:58:44 PM »

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2016, 03:03:37 PM »

The fact that she is a female is why many people pound on her to be and act a certain way, because it's what's expected of females in society. The fact that Hillary does things her way doesn't sit well with many Americans. Hillary has been upsetting the apple cart for a long long time, and it's no wonder that she gets accused of all sorts of things. And it will never stop. People can be very hateful, small-minded and fearful, and those are the types that want to see Hillary go down. Trouble is, Hillary is stronger than they are and pretty fearless. It's hard to cage a female like that. Thus, the accusations, the finger pointing, the he said she said stuff, the hatred of her will continue.

She would be doing the exact same in regards to Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 03:35:44 PM »

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Maybe they'd try to dig up Whitewater again.
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 03:37:26 PM »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.

This. Don't kid yourselves guys. Hillary could live as a pure saint, and the Republicans and the media would still either find or manufacture endless faux scandals regardless.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 03:40:43 PM »

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Maybe they'd try to dig up Whitewater again.

Literally dig up Vince Foster?


The email server is actually a serious thing.  Not serious enough to keep me from voting for her against Donald Trump, but people acting like it's nothing are living in denial.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 04:19:16 PM »

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Maybe they'd try to dig up Whitewater again.

Literally dig up Vince Foster?


The email server is actually a serious thing.  Not serious enough to keep me from voting for her against Donald Trump, but people acting like it's nothing are living in denial.

It's so serious, nobody in a position of power or authority told her to shut it down even though everyone knew she (and other politicians in her position) had being doing it for years. The gall.
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2016, 04:22:05 PM »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Agreed. Let's dispel with this fiction that half of America hates Hillary because of her many scandals. Hillary has so many scandals because half of America has always hated her.
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2016, 04:57:51 PM »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Agreed. Let's dispel with this fiction that half of America hates Hillary because of her many scandals. Hillary has so many scandals because half of America has always hated her.

And the reason is that she is a strong, intelligent political female activist in a man's world. Men are called "ambitious" and that is a good thing. An ambitious female is called many names, but certainly not anything with a positive connotation. Hillary breaks the mold, and that is simply unacceptable female behavior. Anything to try and bring her down is fair game for her detractors.


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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2016, 05:26:56 PM »
« Edited: July 06, 2016, 05:29:41 PM by Seriously? »

There's a good chance some other scandal would have been trumped up against her.

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Agreed. Let's dispel with this fiction that half of America hates Hillary because of her many scandals. Hillary has so many scandals because half of America has always hated her.

And the reason is that she is a strong, intelligent political female activist in a man's world. Men are called "ambitious" and that is a good thing. An ambitious female is called many names, but certainly not anything with a positive connotation. Hillary breaks the mold, and that is simply unacceptable female behavior. Anything to try and bring her down is fair game for her detractors.
The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

Her husband has been accused of sexual assault 17 times. She was asked to leave the Whitewater commission and was behind the sexual assault coverups. She also had her hands in most of the -gates that plagued the Clinton Administration (and no administration since).  Cattle Futures, Whitewater, Lewinsky-gate, Travel-gate, file-gate, Vince Foster, china-gate, pardon-gate, the Clinton Foundation investigation, pay-for-play while she was SoS, Benghazi, her e-mail server, etc.

This brazen woman somehow "lost" the Rose Law firm records. They were just "found" on a table in the White House. The level to which the dishonest Clintons go to just boggles my mind.

And don't tell me I am a partisan. I disagree with Obama politically, but he is an honorable man that has sidestepped many of these personal scandals that have plagued Bill and Hill. There is no vast right wing conspiracy, just misconduct that brings upon these investigations.
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2016, 05:30:04 PM »

The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

"Ethically challenged" is debatable.
trump being mentally challenged is a fact.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2016, 05:31:21 PM »

The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

"Ethically challenged" is debatable.
trump being mentally challenged is a fact.
Evidence of that? Got some medical proof?
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2016, 05:32:09 PM »

The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

"Ethically challenged" is debatable.
trump being mentally challenged is a fact.
Evidence of that? Got some medical proof?

Not medical, but here's some pretty undeniable proof:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_campaign,_2016
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2016, 05:39:45 PM »

The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

"Ethically challenged" is debatable.
trump being mentally challenged is a fact.

Evidence of that? Got some medical proof?

Yes.
Dr FeelGood diagnosed trump with a severe mental-illness case of narcissism.
Luckily it's only infectious and can be transmitted to others with a low IQ.
Here is the link: https://youtu.be/1XHcPYorSJw

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2016, 05:57:48 PM »

The reason is that she and her husband are both ethically challenged.

Her husband has been accused of sexual assault 17 times. She was asked to leave the Whitewater commission and was behind the sexual assault coverups. She also had her hands in most of the -gates that plagued the Clinton Administration (and no administration since).  Cattle Futures, Whitewater, Lewinsky-gate, Travel-gate, file-gate, Vince Foster, china-gate, pardon-gate, the Clinton Foundation investigation, pay-for-play while she was SoS, Benghazi, her e-mail server, etc.

This brazen woman somehow "lost" the Rose Law firm records. They were just "found" on a table in the White House. The level to which the dishonest Clintons go to just boggles my mind.

And don't tell me I am a partisan. I disagree with Obama politically, but he is an honorable man that has sidestepped many of these personal scandals that have plagued Bill and Hill. There is no vast right wing conspiracy, just misconduct that brings upon these investigations.

Talking about Hillary, do you have any proof that she ever committed a crime? Was she ever brought to trial? Convicted of anything?

It's easy to bring up things from a long political history, but unless you have the actual goods on Hillary, you have gossip, innuendo, accusations, he-said she-said stuff, media bias....
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2016, 07:45:10 PM »

Republicans would have come up with some other conspiracy.

Maybe they'd try to dig up Whitewater again.

Literally dig up Vince Foster?


The email server is actually a serious thing.  Not serious enough to keep me from voting for her against Donald Trump, but people acting like it's nothing are living in denial.

It's so serious, nobody in a position of power or authority told her to shut it down even though everyone knew she (and other politicians in her position) had being doing it for years. The gall.

What kind of logic is that?

Nobody told Nixon to stop spying on the DNC. Does that mean Watergate was not a big deal?
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