Is Trumpism going to die off after Donald Trump loses the election?
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« on: July 07, 2016, 06:39:07 PM »
« edited: July 07, 2016, 06:45:25 PM by Human »

Trumpism:
An anti-globalization, anti-immigration, xenophobic, economically populist, and protectionist ideology.

Is Trumpism going to die off after Trump loses the election, or is Trumpism a permanent/semi-permanent phenomenon? Will the GOP permanently become an anti-immigration, anti-globalization, xenophobic, economically populist, and protectionist thanks to Donald Trump or not?
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 06:43:24 PM »
« Edited: July 07, 2016, 06:47:57 PM by darthpi »

No. The question is does it find a home within the Republican party, or does it split off and form a separate political movement.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 06:46:35 PM »

No, but it will lose power, at least temporarily.
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 06:51:49 PM »

No, but it will go away eventually. Much as the Populists slowly withered.
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2016, 07:01:22 PM »

Look at Europe. It isn't "Trumpism". It's a worldwide backlash against the negative aspects of globalization.
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2016, 07:04:00 PM »

I think it will continue
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2016, 07:10:51 PM »

I don't think it will be called Trumpism.

You could call it pro-nationalism, isolationist, populist.

You will get candidates with a more logical transcription of what people are feeling when it comes to dealing with issues such as islamic terrorism, illegal immigration and cheap Chinese business practices.

Trump is not new. These issues are happening in Australia, Europe and the UK.

Eventually, these issues need to be handled correctly.

We cannot all move to Canada.
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2016, 07:13:30 PM »

"Trumpism" has existed since at least 1968 - it really is just Richard Nixon's silent majority.

It isn't going anywhere, just like it hasn't gone anywhere for the past 48 years.

Until there isn't a white working class anymore, that is.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2016, 07:41:47 PM »

No. The question is does it find a home within the Republican party, or does it split off and form a separate political movement.

This.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2016, 10:18:12 PM »

There have been periodic populist uprisings throughout American history. George Wallace, Perot, Pat Buchanan, and now Trump just for modern examples. Trump actually getting the nomination may make the Republicans move a little more in that direction in the immediate future, though.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2016, 11:01:35 PM »

"Trumpism" as in support for the policies Trump espouses? Obviously they're not going to die off; they've been around for decades and at least in some form they're going to stick around for the foreseeable future, though generational trends suggest that within 10-15 years they will be relegated to permanent minority status. (A candidate with Trump's views, but without Trump's numerous hang-ups, could've done very well indeed in 2016, though getting past the Republican primary would've been tough. 2020 is probably still on the table. Past that, unless the worldwide anti-globalization movement actually manages to radically change the status quo, the future looks bleak indeed for them). First World youth, in America and western Europe, on the left and on the right, support globalization to a far greater extent than their ancestors, and they are unable -- and will continue to be unable -- to conceive of a world without it.

"Trumpism" as in the style of campaigning Trump uses, with large-scale rallies, little fundraising, and media domination? This is a style that can only work for a politician with near-100% name recognition who enters the race. Such comes along only very infrequently, and the Trump experience will make others less inclined to try it, especially if they do not align with Trump ideologically. So that dies as soon as Trump is not himself physically a candidate.

"Trumpism" as in the cult of personality around Trump himself? This one is tough. There are about a third, perhaps a little more, of the party that totally unquestioningly buy into Trump's shtick. If the election is a comic McGovern/Mondale style defeat most of that will peel off, but if it's not meaningfully worse than McCain and Romney most of that will stick by him. Trump may be able to play a role in endorsing candidates he likes for minor office and being a valuable surrogate in 2020 (or running again himself). This would survive for about 10 years or so after the 2016 election, but would struggle to gain new adherents and would eventually simply atrophy (or disappear suddenly upon the man's death). So...we are unlikely to see a die-off right after the election, but in the somewhat longer run this will die, too.

In summary...voted no, but "Trumpism" is a mixture of several different phenomena (political positions, a campaigning style, and adoration for a certain person) that do not necessarily need to be connected to each other. One looks certain to survive in some form, one looks certain to die immediately, and the last has an uncertain future but will probably continue to exist in some way in the near-term.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2016, 11:02:37 PM »

What is "Trumpism"?
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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2016, 11:40:33 PM »

Trumpism as a collection of viewpoints -- basically the viewpoints promoted by Brietbart given that it's the media arm of the Trump campaign now -- will continue to exist, as it existed before Trump entered.

Trumpism as adoration for sharp-tongued, gutsy, never-admit-to-being-wrong, charismatic tough guys who mercilessly attack their opponents and the press will continue to exist in the American id, but will die down as a movement unless a similar figure takes the mantle.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2016, 11:43:12 PM »

No.
Thanks to trump there will be an increase amount of racism, bigotry and hatred for minority groups of all kinds. Whites will be highly affected also.
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« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2016, 05:15:34 AM »

It will be opened up by focus groups and various agents, polished and made less vulgar and more technocratic; then handed to some ambitious GOP politician to make the same points but in a manner that is more acceptable to the Powers That Be.
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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2016, 05:57:11 AM »

When I read the sentence "34% of Americans say they would prefer a leader who doesn't have to bother with elections – in other words, a dictator" in some long Grauniad article entitled "Welcome to to age of Trump", I realized there must be underlying causes behind "T-rumpism".
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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2016, 07:37:03 AM »

Trumpism:
An anti-globalization, anti-immigration, xenophobic, economically populist, and protectionist ideology.

Anti-globalization, economically populist, and protectionist ideology gets rolled into the Democrats.

Anti-immigration xenophobia cannot survive with the nation's shifting demographics, because Republicans will lose Texas.  Republicans will need to become the party of reduced government, liberalized trade and immigration, and internationalism, in a way that will appeal to a broad coalition of the well-educated, the wealthy, women, Asians, Hispanics, and recent immigrants.  Or they will be dominated by Democrats.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2016, 08:35:17 AM »

"Trumpism" has existed for quite a long time. It just finally found a voice through Trump.
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2016, 10:27:43 AM »

This is the start, I believe, of the kind of populist anti-immigrant movement we've seen in Europe for a while now.
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2016, 10:52:37 AM »

This is the start, I believe, of the kind of populist anti-immigrant movement we've seen in Europe for a while now.

Europe is taking in massive waves of Muslim immigration relative to the size of their population. Those Muslims are being marginalized and forced into ghettos, where many of their youth are radicalized.  Meanwhile, the native populations of European countries are in decline, with birth rates too low to keep up with death rates.  While Islamophobia is a terrible thing, it's easy to see how nativism would be more attractive in that context.

Furthermore, Eurozone countries share a central bank whose only mandate is price stability, not economic conditions, in contrast to the dual mandate of our Federal Reserve.  This leaves individual countries powerless to combat unemployment through monetary means, and beholden to the ECB and austerity measures.

So, huge immigration pressures, unemployment, and austerity.  We don't have these problems in the US, and we're not about to.
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2016, 11:02:35 AM »

In the form that it can get someone nominated for either party that isn't Donald J. Trump?  Absolutely.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2016, 11:22:28 AM »

No.
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2016, 12:59:40 PM »

Ideally, yes, realistically, no.
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2016, 01:14:29 PM »

If November goes as expected then Cruz will be the natural nominee in 2020...as long as he becomes a bit more Trumpish.
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2016, 02:26:01 PM »

I don't think "Trunpism" will die since those type of voters will still be there in the future.
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