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Anna Komnene
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« on: July 07, 2016, 07:39:29 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 07:42:19 PM »

I'd like to thank Legislator Peebs for bringing this forward.  It was something the regional committee suggested we should decide on ourselves.

I think Chamber of Delegates would be pretty cool and a unique name.  Uniqueness I think attracts more people to the region.  That said, there are a lot of other potential names we could have other than "Legislature."  We could be an assembly, parliament, house, council, or maybe other things too.  Hopefully everyone will think it over.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 08:14:20 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 09:18:26 PM »

     I will mention for the sake of information, "Assembly" was the original default term popularized by the old Mideast Assembly, which was the first elected regional legislative body in the country. The usage of "Legislature" as a generic term in fact postdates the foundation of the Southern Legislature, and has been a major point of pride for our region for some time now.

     With that said, using "Chamber of Delegates" to recapture that original uniqueness intrigues me greatly.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2016, 04:29:12 AM »

FTR, I much prefer "Chamber of Delegates."

"Assembly" is boring and creates really cumbersome and inconsistent names.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2016, 04:08:57 PM »

I prefer the term "Deputy" over "Delegate".
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2016, 08:09:57 PM »

I'm ok with this bill in it's original form and with Santander's amendment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2016, 10:02:45 PM »

I prefer the term "Deputy" over "Delegate".

That would work if the Legislature genuinely prefers it, but I'd probably think of Barney Fife every time I see the word. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2016, 11:02:00 PM »

yeah I'm fine with Chamber of Deputies
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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2016, 12:09:22 AM »

I don't really like Chamber of Deputies, but I don't really mind calling it that.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2016, 02:27:31 AM »

I call for a vote on my original amendment, ( the one which changes the bill to Assembly, for a choice and all)
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2016, 02:28:43 AM »

I second dfwlibertylover's motion.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2016, 04:05:37 AM »

Does everyone prefer Chamber of Deputies then?  or does anyone prefer Chamber of Delegates or something else?  To be honest, I don't really prefer one over the other and could go either way.
I don't really like Chamber of Deputies, but I don't really mind calling it that.

Don't ask what you think about one thing, compare both.

Of all 5 of you, who prefers "Chamber of Delegates?" Who prefers "Chamber of Deputies?" I prefer the former (Delegates), but I am not a member of this body, regardless of it's name.

Anyway, I must ask that you vote against "Assembly." Why?

-It's boring.

-It's the most unoriginal thing you could call it. The other two regions have literally already gone with this name! This is basically voluntarily accepting the abysmal vision of cookie-cutter regions advocated by some at the ConCon.

-It's cumbersome. "Assemblyman" and "Assemblywoman" are hard to say. If you're so stubbornly stuck on "Assembly," make it "MLA" (Members of the Legislative Assembly)--it's unique at least. "Delegate" and "Deputy" roll of the tongue much better than "Assemblyman" or "Assemblywoman" and are gender-neutral (which means you can use the term generically).
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2016, 02:03:05 PM »

In my opinion, "Assemblyman" is a neuter term, not a masculine term. "-man" has traditionally meant "person", and it is only in modern times that it has even connoted masculinity.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2016, 04:14:36 PM »

Before anyone jumps down my throat, yes we will vote on the amendment, but I'd like to hear dfwlibertylover's response to Leinad's point because I think it's a valid question.  Especially the last part.  Would you be open to that change, or are you set on assemblymen and assemblywomen?
I'm fine with Assemblyperson I guess but it doesn't really roll off the tongue the same way.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2016, 04:33:16 PM »

I'd prefer to keep it in my original form, then if my amendment fails we can vote on other choices or the original bill
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2016, 04:48:37 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2016, 05:17:06 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2016, 08:04:14 PM »

Abstain
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2016, 04:19:57 PM »

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 2, and the NAYs are 1, with 1 ABSTAIN, and 1 not voting.  The AYEs have it, and the amendment is agreed to.
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2016, 04:43:59 PM »

Is "Assembly" the name people support then?  Or is this vote just saying that you like it better than "Chamber of Delegates?"
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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2016, 03:46:08 AM »

To be honest this is not one of the issues I am passionate on.
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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2016, 12:42:35 PM »

     If the bill passes in its current form then I will veto it.
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2016, 06:59:46 PM »

     If the bill passes in its current form then I will veto it.
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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2016, 07:04:45 PM »

May I ask why?
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