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« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2016, 06:30:19 PM »

CNN Report Questions Evan Bayh's Indiana Residency
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« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2016, 06:46:46 PM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.
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« Reply #152 on: August 15, 2016, 06:47:37 PM »

This is just downright stupid.
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« Reply #153 on: August 15, 2016, 06:53:14 PM »

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« Reply #154 on: August 15, 2016, 07:18:35 PM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.

Well, he had that trademark (R) next to his name. No petty residency thing matters if you have that in Indiana.
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« Reply #155 on: August 15, 2016, 07:39:02 PM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.

Well, he had that trademark (R) next to his name. No petty residency thing matters if you have that in Indiana.

And this year it's good to have a D next to your name and run against Trump's party.
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« Reply #156 on: August 15, 2016, 07:54:05 PM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.

Well, he had that trademark (R) next to his name. No petty residency thing matters if you have that in Indiana.
It was definitely an issue in the 2010 primary, though Stutzman wasn't well known enough to gain the traction to take him down. As I said back then, had Stuztman been given another month to campaign, he would be the incumbent senator right now running for reelection.

Residency was also a big reason for Lugar's (R) loss in 2012. I think your statement is bogus; this has been a bigger issue in the past with Republicans than Democrats. Considering we lost the other senate seat over this issue, I think it is a fair point for Young to bring up.
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« Reply #157 on: August 15, 2016, 11:32:48 PM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.

Well, he had that trademark (R) next to his name. No petty residency thing matters if you have that in Indiana.
It was definitely an issue in the 2010 primary, though Stutzman wasn't well known enough to gain the traction to take him down. As I said back then, had Stuztman been given another month to campaign, he would be the incumbent senator right now running for reelection.

Residency was also a big reason for Lugar's (R) loss in 2012. I think your statement is bogus; this has been a bigger issue in the past with Republicans than Democrats. Considering we lost the other senate seat over this issue, I think it is a fair point for Young to bring up.

Indeed.

Anyone remember Santorum's residency issues? Granted he was pretty much sunk anyway, but it didn't help he was basically living in VA and his Penn Hills home looked completely uninhabited.
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« Reply #158 on: August 15, 2016, 11:50:08 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YIjnskTwV0

A Republican alligned PAC should put the first minute of this on the air.
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« Reply #159 on: August 15, 2016, 11:53:32 PM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.
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« Reply #160 on: August 16, 2016, 12:02:52 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
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« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2016, 12:22:18 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
Yeah, I definitely see your point. I just think that often when you use video/audio/quotes of someone in a political ad, usually the messenger is the message.
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« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2016, 12:34:41 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
Yeah, I definitely see your point. I just think that often when you use video/audio/quotes of someone in a political ad, usually the messenger is the message.

Especially if Maher will undoubtedly condemn the ad on his show and probably all-but-endorse Bayh just to spite Republicans using him in an ad.
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« Reply #163 on: August 16, 2016, 12:35:55 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
Yeah, I definitely see your point. I just think that often when you use video/audio/quotes of someone in a political ad, usually the messenger is the message.

Especially if Maher will undoubtedly condemn the ad on his show and probably all-but-endorse Bayh just to spite Republicans using him in an ad.
Yeah those were easy words for Maher when Bayh was leaving, but now that Bayh plays a key role in retaking Senate, I bet he'll find that a shaky majority is far preferable to a minority hold.
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« Reply #164 on: August 16, 2016, 12:45:27 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
Yeah, I definitely see your point. I just think that often when you use video/audio/quotes of someone in a political ad, usually the messenger is the message.

Especially if Maher will undoubtedly condemn the ad on his show and probably all-but-endorse Bayh just to spite Republicans using him in an ad.
Yeah those were easy words for Maher when Bayh was leaving, but now that Bayh plays a key role in retaking Senate, I bet he'll find that a shaky majority is far preferable to a minority hold.

THat will work with Democrats, but not necessarily with indies and Republicans off put by the notion that Bayh is corrupted by special interests. The key is to hit from all sides and even if Maher does endorse him for the sake of the majority, he cannot exactly recant the substance and that is what matters. Maher will not be the only source for that attack line.
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« Reply #165 on: August 16, 2016, 12:50:03 AM »


Dan Coats literally dropped in from North Carolina 6 years ago and had no problem to win.
I doubt it's any different this time.

Well, he had that trademark (R) next to his name. No petty residency thing matters if you have that in Indiana.
It was definitely an issue in the 2010 primary, though Stutzman wasn't well known enough to gain the traction to take him down. As I said back then, had Stuztman been given another month to campaign, he would be the incumbent senator right now running for reelection.

Residency was also a big reason for Lugar's (R) loss in 2012. I think your statement is bogus; this has been a bigger issue in the past with Republicans than Democrats. Considering we lost the other senate seat over this issue, I think it is a fair point for Young to bring up.
I totally agree. Young and the NRSC need to really bring this up and pound Bayh hard on it. If we lost the other seat four years ago due to similar issues, we can use this against Bayh this time around. I'd like to see a non-DSCC poll of this race soon.
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« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2016, 12:51:14 AM »

I'm not saying this isn't a smooth idea in theory, but does Bill Maher resonate with Indiana Dems/Centrists? I could almost see moderate/conservative Dems and Indies finding a condemnation from Bill Maher a good thing.

Its more the message of Bayh fighting for corporations first and people second.
Yeah, I definitely see your point. I just think that often when you use video/audio/quotes of someone in a political ad, usually the messenger is the message.

Especially if Maher will undoubtedly condemn the ad on his show and probably all-but-endorse Bayh just to spite Republicans using him in an ad.
Yeah those were easy words for Maher when Bayh was leaving, but now that Bayh plays a key role in retaking Senate, I bet he'll find that a shaky majority is far preferable to a minority hold.

THat will work with Democrats, but not necessarily with indies and Republicans off put by the notion that Bayh is corrupted by special interests. The key is to hit from all sides and even if Maher does endorse him for the sake of the majority, he cannot exactly recant the substance and that is what matters. Maher will not be the only source for that attack line.
Hmm, yeah that's true. I guess that would be an awkward line to walk. It could scramble the message and unity of the Dem side from within, and that's not a bad plan.
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« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2016, 07:57:14 AM »

I dont think it will really matter in the end.
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« Reply #168 on: August 16, 2016, 09:57:38 AM »

I think if Bill Maher endorsed Bayh, had been raving about him for years etc then Bayh wouldn't be winning in Indiana
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« Reply #169 on: August 19, 2016, 12:49:14 PM »

Another report: Bayh listed as an inactive voter in Indiana as recent as last week.
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« Reply #170 on: August 19, 2016, 12:59:46 PM »


Does this even matter? It didn't when Indiana voted Dan Coats in 2010. Also Bayh has never lived in Indiana for long periods of time, even when he was Governor.
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« Reply #171 on: August 19, 2016, 01:38:25 PM »


Does this even matter? It didn't when Indiana voted Dan Coats in 2010. Also Bayh has never lived in Indiana for long periods of time, even when he was Governor.
It sunk Lugar in 2012, when sentiment against insiders wasn't nearly as high as it is now. More stuff for Young to pound on, though he should also air positive ads, too.
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« Reply #172 on: August 19, 2016, 01:49:54 PM »


Does this even matter? It didn't when Indiana voted Dan Coats in 2010. Also Bayh has never lived in Indiana for long periods of time, even when he was Governor.
It sunk Lugar in 2012, when sentiment against insiders wasn't nearly as high as it is now. More stuff for Young to pound on, though he should also air positive ads, too.


It sank Lugar in a primary and it was hardly the deciding factor. If he was renominated he still would have demolished Donnelly.
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