Why aren't we talking about white-on-white crime?

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

[Beet]

Because no one endorses white-on-white crime. Just as no one endorses black-on-black crime. Crime is illegal; that's why it's called crime. The comparisons between widely acknowledged criminals who get put in jail if caught, and public servants who get off Scott free for homicide is just apples and oranges, and I wish people would stop making these.

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Intensity.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

I looked the stats up https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/expanded-homicide-data/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2014.xls, Hispanic was counted in that statistic as White. But if we look in the ethnicity column, we will see that around 19-20% of murders of White people (includes Hispanics) are commit by Hispanic.

Let's look at the stats

3021 White people are murdered each years of those victims 720 are Hispanics. This mean that 2301 non-Hispanic Whites was killed in 2014.

So let's look at the Hispanic killers of the 595 killers of Whites 519 killed another Hispanic. So there are 76 Hispanic killers of non-Hispanic whites. While 59 killers of Hispanics was non-Hispanic White. This mean that there was 1969 non-Hispanic White killers of non-Hispanic White victims. That mean the correct number are 85% of nH White victims are killed by nH Whites.

Of course that looks a lot worse. So why don't they use these stats instead. Well here it get ugly

2451 African-Americans was killed in 2014. So the reason that we don't talk about White vs White crime are because even through White people make up 2/3 of the population. Of the 5703 people killed in 2014 only 40% of the people killed was nH White. While the nH White killers only made up 36%. So yes as a nH White person you're more likely to be killed by another nH White person, the general risk of being killed are much lower.

Also many Whites live in near monoracial areas, it could be interesting if we look at the stats county to county and removed any counties with less than 1% Black people from the statistics.

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Because no one endorses white-on-white crime. Just as no one endorses black-on-black crime. Crime is illegal; that's why it's called crime. The comparisons between widely acknowledged criminals who get put in jail if caught, and public servants who get off Scott free for homicide is just apples and oranges, and I wish people would stop making these.

Scott free...great pun.

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Crime is OK if you're a rich white on Wall Street, you see.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

Because Black on Black crime is far more common than White on White crime.

This is like saying if 10 White people are killed and 9 of the killers are White and 50 Black people are killed and 45 of the killers of Black, that the "rate is the same" even though White on White crime killed 9 people and Black on Black crime killed 45.

What you're saying is objectively dumb.

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2451 African-Americans was killed in 2014. So the reason that we don't talk about White vs White crime are because even through White people make up 2/3 of the population. Of the 5703 people killed in 2014 only 40% of the people killed was nH White. While the nH White killers only made up 36%. So yes as a nH White person you're more likely to be killed by another nH White person, the general risk of being killed are much lower.

Very good.  Goebbels couldn't have done it any better.  The question was, "why aren't WE talking about white on white crime?"  The crime that is most likely to affect a poster on atlas (white person) is another white person murdering them.  No one wants to talk about that.  But the even more unlikely event of a black person murdering them is discussed ad nauseam.  So why is that?  Is it because the good white people of Atlas are soooo concerned about African Americans who, based on the posting history of this forum, they never have any meaningful interaction with?

Also many Whites live in near monoracial areas...

Yeah.  So why does a rainbow coalition of avatars keep going on and on about black people?  This reminds me of the absurd statements posted on this forum and uttered by Republican politicians and LGBT activists alike in the wake of the Florida club shooting.  The stupid comments about Muslim homophobia.  So now where is all that stupid talk that I told you guys was BS?  The person driving homophobia in America is a white Christian.  If you are a white homosexual and you get your ass kicked because of it your assailant in all likelihood is a white Christian.

Muslims make up less than 1% of the population and Muslims support gay marriage more than white evangelical Christians.  Do you know how many posts I had to make to beat back the irrational crazy posts about Muslim homophobia?  And now look at how easily you rattle off all these statistics to show "black people evil, white people good".  Like I said Goebbels would be proud.  Very nice bipartisan racial propaganda.

Crime is OK if you're a rich white on Wall Street, you see.

It apparently is totally okay in any circumstance up to and including murder.  As long as there is a minority we can discuss instead.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

Because Black on Black crime is far more common than White on White crime.

This is like saying if 10 White people are killed and 9 of the killers are White and 50 Black people are killed and 45 of the killers of Black, that the "rate is the same" even though White on White crime killed 9 people and Black on Black crime killed 45.

What you're saying is objectively dumb.

Let's see if we can pull that thread a little bit further, and instead of just saying "black people are more in danger of being killed/killing people," ask why that is. Let's ask why the black incarceration rate is as high as it is, why the black poverty rate is as high as it is, why the black unemployment rate is as high as it is. Simply stopping at describing it veers pretty close to implicitly claiming that it's inherent differences in black people/culture that cause this divide, which is absurd.

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Crime is OK if you're a rich white on Wall Street, you see.

I wasn't aware Lloyd Blankfein and Bill Gates run around shooting people.

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It's a really serious issue.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

Because Black on Black crime is far more common than White on White crime.

This is like saying if 10 White people are killed and 9 of the killers are White and 50 Black people are killed and 45 of the killers of Black, that the "rate is the same" even though White on White crime killed 9 people and Black on Black crime killed 45.

What you're saying is objectively dumb.

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It's a really serious issue.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

Because Black on Black crime is far more common than White on White crime.

This is like saying if 10 White people are killed and 9 of the killers are White and 50 Black people are killed and 45 of the killers of Black, that the "rate is the same" even though White on White crime killed 9 people and Black on Black crime killed 45.

What you're saying is objectively dumb.

Let's see if we can pull that thread a little bit further, and instead of just saying "black people are more in danger of being killed/killing people," ask why that is. Let's ask why the black incarceration rate is as high as it is, why the black poverty rate is as high as it is, why the black unemployment rate is as high as it is. Simply stopping at describing it veers pretty close to implicitly claiming that it's inherent differences in black people/culture that cause this divide, which is absurd.

It's pretty obvious that wasn't he was implying, but if we want to feel good about ourselves, OK.
What he was implying is that it is wrong to use statistics completely misleadingly as happens around here on a regular basis. The argument is beyond weak and people keep buying into similar ones.

Beet stated the appropriate answer to this thread that should shut up anyone who brings up the opposite argument, but it was a stupid troll job with improper 'factual evidence' to begin with, so it deserved to be called out for its absurdity.

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

So it would be less of a problem if they murdered non-whites?

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What is the hell is the problem with white culture?

Because Black on Black crime is far more common than White on White crime.

This is like saying if 10 White people are killed and 9 of the killers are White and 50 Black people are killed and 45 of the killers of Black, that the "rate is the same" even though White on White crime killed 9 people and Black on Black crime killed 45.

What you're saying is objectively dumb.

Let's see if we can pull that thread a little bit further, and instead of just saying "black people are more in danger of being killed/killing people," ask why that is. Let's ask why the black incarceration rate is as high as it is, why the black poverty rate is as high as it is, why the black unemployment rate is as high as it is. Simply stopping at describing it veers pretty close to implicitly claiming that it's inherent differences in black people/culture that cause this divide, which is absurd.

The incarceration rate and poverty rate for black people is as high as it is because of institutional racism.