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« Reply #50 on: July 15, 2016, 04:17:54 PM »
Quote from: I did not see L.A. on July 15, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: Angel of Death on July 15, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Surely I'm not the only one troubled by Kerry's initial statement, in particular the lack of even a token mention of how democracy and the constitutional order of a country such as this should be respected?

I wouldn't be too shocked if the US had a hand in this. Wouldn't be the first time.

Never thought I'd ever support a (possibly)U.S.-backed coup.
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« Reply #51 on: July 15, 2016, 04:18:06 PM »
Quote from: I did not see L.A. on July 15, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: Angel of Death on July 15, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Surely I'm not the only one troubled by Kerry's initial statement, in particular the lack of even a token mention of how democracy and the constitutional order of a country such as this should be respected?

I wouldn't be too shocked if the US had a hand in this. Wouldn't be the first time.

Given the scale I am sure the CIA and/or US military should have pre-knowledge of this.  
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« Reply #52 on: July 15, 2016, 04:18:29 PM »
*VERY HEAVY GUNFIRE HEARD AT TURKEY PRESIDENTIAL PALACE
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« Reply #53 on: July 15, 2016, 04:18:37 PM »
well… let's hope that the turkish military is less awful than the egyptian military.
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« Reply #54 on: July 15, 2016, 04:19:48 PM »
Why am I not surprised?
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« Reply #55 on: July 15, 2016, 04:20:03 PM »
Quote from: eeveergreen on July 15, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
well… let's hope that the turkish military is less awful than the egyptian military.

I hope so. One generalissimo Sissi in the region is enough.
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« Reply #56 on: July 15, 2016, 04:20:10 PM »
Quote from: jaichind on July 15, 2016, 04:18:06 PM
Quote from: I did not see L.A. on July 15, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: Angel of Death on July 15, 2016, 04:15:06 PM
Surely I'm not the only one troubled by Kerry's initial statement, in particular the lack of even a token mention of how democracy and the constitutional order of a country such as this should be respected?

I wouldn't be too shocked if the US had a hand in this. Wouldn't be the first time.

Given the scale I am sure the CIA and/or US military should have pre-knowledge of this.  

Some things to remember:
 - The Pentagon said they didn't have any warning of this,
 - But that doesn't say anything about the CIA or State.
 - Fethullah Gülen, who has a lot of allies in the army, lives in Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #57 on: July 15, 2016, 04:21:06 PM »
Quote from: Simfan34 on July 15, 2016, 04:17:22 PM
Quote from: I did not see L.A. on July 15, 2016, 03:41:09 PM
Fingers crossed for it to succeed. Erdogan needs to be removed.

Are you a liberal or a democrat?

I want real democracy (not Erdogan's bonapartist regime) to be restored, and the military is currently the best option for that.
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« Reply #58 on: July 15, 2016, 04:21:29 PM »
Army statement: "Secular rule of law was threatened."
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« Reply #59 on: July 15, 2016, 04:21:37 PM »
Kerry's statement was pretty much "oh, I had to said something mild, guys"
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« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2016, 04:22:20 PM »
Quote from: eeveergreen on July 15, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
well… let's hope that the turkish military is less awful than the egyptian military.

That is certainly something we should hope for.
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« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2016, 04:22:30 PM »
Let's hope whoever's in charge is not another Kenan Evren.
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« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2016, 04:22:59 PM »
I usually have no problems with military coups (they are often better than the alternative) but in this fight I am for Erdogan
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« Reply #63 on: July 15, 2016, 04:23:16 PM »
Military is saying the country is now being governed by a Peace Council, which will respect the civil rights and liberties of all regardless of religion, with a quick return to democracy and that Erdogan was an enemy of democracy.
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« Reply #64 on: July 15, 2016, 04:23:46 PM »
*ERDOGAN STILL IN CHARGE OF TURKEY, TO MAKE STATEMENT: OFFICIAL
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« Reply #65 on: July 15, 2016, 04:24:27 PM »
Quote from: jaichind on July 15, 2016, 04:23:46 PM
*ERDOGAN STILL IN CHARGE OF TURKEY, TO MAKE STATEMENT: OFFICIAL

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« Reply #66 on: July 15, 2016, 04:25:20 PM »
Hopefully they're successful.
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« Reply #67 on: July 15, 2016, 04:26:00 PM »
Reminds me of the coup against Diem in '63. Basically, our little boy pissed off the State Department due to too many human rights violations, and there were longstanding animosities in the military to exploit.

Also, Putin probably told Kerry he wanted Erdogan out. If one looks at the Russia-Syria-Iraq-Iran noose Kerry wants to build against ISIS, Turkey was clearly the odd one out.
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« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2016, 04:26:13 PM »
All alliances and treaties will be upheld, according to the Peace Council (aka military rulers).
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« Reply #69 on: July 15, 2016, 04:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Blue3 on July 15, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
All alliances and treaties will be upheld, according to the Peace Council (aka military rulers).

I love orwellian names.
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« Reply #70 on: July 15, 2016, 04:27:17 PM »
Erdogan seeking asylum in Germany! Refused landing rights!

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« Reply #71 on: July 15, 2016, 04:27:29 PM »
BREAKING: Erdogan seeks asylum in Germany
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« Reply #72 on: July 15, 2016, 04:28:24 PM »
Why do some people seem to think that coups must always be the result of some kind of CIA plot? There are more than enough elements in Turkey who'd support outsting Erdogan.
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« Reply #73 on: July 15, 2016, 04:29:40 PM »
Will rhe ISIS grant Erdogan an asylum?
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« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2016, 04:30:28 PM »

That would be... ironic.
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