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« Reply #225 on: July 15, 2016, 09:02:58 PM »

After the purge of the army Erdogan will most likely call a snap election with AKP winning at least 367 seats to bypass a referendum and change the constitution directly within parliament
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« Reply #226 on: July 15, 2016, 09:12:31 PM »

I'm so glad I live in a country where political differences are settled by elections.
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« Reply #227 on: July 15, 2016, 09:20:31 PM »

TURKEY PM: ONE GENERAL INVOLVED IN COUP SAID KILLED: CNN-TURK
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« Reply #228 on: July 15, 2016, 09:22:51 PM »

Can you cool it on the all caps please?
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« Reply #229 on: July 15, 2016, 10:54:18 PM »

This coup is looking worse by the minute.
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« Reply #230 on: July 15, 2016, 11:08:37 PM »

I am almost more convinced now by the "Erdogan wanted this to happen" theory. It just seems completely foolish to do this without knowing whether popular support would get behind it.
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« Reply #231 on: July 15, 2016, 11:35:53 PM »

Ergenekon convictions being made void showed that Judiciary main leaders would be open to legitimize a military coup. But for many elements in Turkey society (youth, peasants, working class, Kurds), Erdogan is lesser evil than military because of memoirs from Evran times.
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« Reply #232 on: July 16, 2016, 01:07:15 AM »

Well this is quite possibly the worst way this could possibly have ended.
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« Reply #233 on: July 16, 2016, 01:20:27 AM »

Well this is quite possibly the worst way this could possibly have ended.

Everything played perfectly in Erdogan's hands. If he wasn't somehow behind this, it was an incredibly incompetent coup attempt. The military made so many stupid mistakes.
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« Reply #234 on: July 16, 2016, 01:49:11 AM »


He really doesn't like someone in Pennsylvania.

Turns out that Turkey and Pennsylvania are bitter enemies

What happened last Thanksgiving in Pennsylvania?
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« Reply #235 on: July 16, 2016, 01:50:49 AM »

The Idea that Erdogan planned this all himself would make him one of the greatest masterminds of all time. I don't think anyone who has heard him speak would think that.
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« Reply #236 on: July 16, 2016, 02:13:52 AM »

The Idea that Erdogan planned this all himself would make him one of the greatest masterminds of all time. I don't think anyone who has heard him speak would think that.

I suppose it's also possible he might have been tipped off that the coup was happening days or weeks ago and figured he had a lot more to gain from letting it happen and returning as a national hero than just arresting a bunch of military officials and saying they were plotting to overthrow him.
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« Reply #237 on: July 16, 2016, 02:21:09 AM »

The Idea that Erdogan planned this all himself would make him one of the greatest masterminds of all time. I don't think anyone who has heard him speak would think that.
Have you heard Trump speak?
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« Reply #238 on: July 16, 2016, 02:41:07 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2016, 02:50:01 AM by Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan »

Coup 2016-2016, good night sweet prince [ * ]
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« Reply #239 on: July 16, 2016, 03:01:22 AM »

Over 1500 soldiers arrested. This is over.
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« Reply #240 on: July 16, 2016, 03:50:39 AM »

Erdogan in his impromptu press conference called the coup "a gift from God" and plans "a cleansing" of the army, in other words, a purge


This.....ain't good.
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« Reply #241 on: July 16, 2016, 04:33:57 AM »

Erdogan may have allowed this to happen, in order to purge the military and make a grab for absolute power.

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« Reply #242 on: July 16, 2016, 04:56:13 AM »

I hope Erdogan is permanently ousted and that Turkey returns to being a secular, pro-sanity state.

Does this imply Turkey was ever a "pro-sanity" state.

Seriously people if it's secularists behind this then the only people that will be bolstered is Isis, when the military decide to declare full on war with the Kurds and cause the whole area to implode. As it is it's likely Gulenists, so, err.
The military OPPOSES the current Kurdish war.

The military thinks Erdogan has been too soft on ISIS.

Really? I haven't seen any indicTion that the military has changed their decade old stance of wiping out Kurds en masse, but eh. Especially as the AKP has a huge electoral base amongst Kurds, and allies of the military are known to lynch Kurds in the Se in this recent conflict.

Still haven't got a responce that shows what you claim? Were you talking bullsh**t?
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« Reply #243 on: July 16, 2016, 06:26:39 AM »

Current numbers : 192 dead, including 104 coup soldiers, 47 civilians and 41 police. At least 1,154 injured. 754 arrested.

Occam's razor tells us Erdogan didn't plan this by himself to gain power in a Palpatine way. Still, we can also admit that 1) he probably had intelligence reports that something fishy was coming, since someone always speak, and 2) when sh**t hit the fan, he was therefore quick to take off to safety with his plane and let the thing unravel.
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« Reply #244 on: July 16, 2016, 06:28:51 AM »

It seems the coup plotters did not even know where Erdogan was let alone have a plan to arrest him at the beginning of the coup.  If so this whole thing was never going to succeed. 
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« Reply #245 on: July 16, 2016, 07:50:44 AM »

2,745 judges and 5 members of the High Judiciary Court Board removed following coup attempt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/754294482586177536

Not good at all.
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« Reply #246 on: July 16, 2016, 07:51:21 AM »

Oh, now there's talk about restoring death penalty. Is Erdogan still going to apply to the EU?
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« Reply #247 on: July 16, 2016, 09:47:16 AM »

This is absolutely devastating.  Say goodbye to Attaturk's Turkey. What a massive setback for the west in every way.  And then include Germany refusing Erdogan asylum and Kerry's statement of tacit approval and you have an anti-west dictator for life in Turkey.
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« Reply #248 on: July 16, 2016, 09:48:04 AM »

Seriously, this is extrememly depressing news.
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« Reply #249 on: July 16, 2016, 09:54:10 AM »

Several media outlets report that at least one soldier was beheaded by an angry mob in Istanbul. Hopefully that's incorrect.

However, there seem to be authentic pictures of soldiers being flogged on the street en masse.
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