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Question: Should the baker be forced to sell the cake?
#1
Yes, but only because it's not for a wedding
 
#2
Yes, even if it were for a wedding and not a birthday
 
#3
No, she should not have to sell them the cake
 
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Other/Moderate hero option
 
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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« on: July 19, 2016, 01:35:37 PM »

Why did this weirdo baker decide to look up his customer's Facebook page to begin with?Huh
Yeah, that is weird as hell. I hope the backlash puts his business out of commission.

Anywho, I have a pretty clear-cut position on this. If you don't believe in gay marriage and don't want to "aide and abed" a gay marriage ceremony, like a wedding, you have the right to refuse service. However, a birthday cake is not religious in nature. The private life of the two women involved is none of his business (it would be if he had to bake a cake involving their private life, ie, a wedding) so he lacks the right to freedom of association in this case.

If he can deny service to these two women, why not deny service to a pregnant teenager? Or a recovering alcoholic? The public means the public. A gay wedding is not the public, but a gay couple entering the bakery for a simple birthday cake is.
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Atlas Has Shrugged
ChairmanSanchez
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 04:03:28 PM »

Businesses have no right to discriminate. Period.

It's not that simple I'm afraid.  I mean I hate bigotry and intolerance, but your kind of statement is a pretty blanket statement.  For starters, should a business be obliged to serve skinheads?  Personally I think not.

If they're not promoting/ostentating their views or being disruptive in any way and the only way you can tell they are skinheads is by their physical looks, then I don't see how you can refuse service.
What if they have a swastika tattooed on their forehead?
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