Republican National Convention **live commentary thread**

[Devout Centrist]

Everyone ready for this?

[Devout Centrist]

Oh man, it's going down.

Trump will win, but the negative coverage is terrible for him.

[Devout Centrist]

Chair is back on stage.

[Devout Centrist]

I'm not sure the Ayes had it there.

This is how camp counselors measure camp spirit, not important political decisions.

[Devout Centrist]

Not a floor fight unless somebody throws a chair

Just you wait

Where are you guys watching this?

CNN. Jake Tapper looks so confused.

[Devout Centrist]

IOWA AND COLORADO DELEGATES HAVE WALKED OFF FLOOR

Yep, saw this coming months ago.

[Devout Centrist]

Colorado delegation walked out

The non-elected delegation walks out. Who cares.

Then what's your excuse for Iowa walking out too?

Plurality state. Trump doesn't hold the delegation.

Any delegation walking out is bad for the convention and the candidate's image

[Devout Centrist]

Rudy Giuliani: "I helped them because I put (blacks) to work."

This is why you're not president.

[Devout Centrist]

If people like me leave the party, that just gives them even more power.

Bingo.

The party has already left you, friend. What we are seeing this week is the Republican Party. Its biggest factions are now Trumpites and Cruzians—if you're okay with that reality, stay. But moderates aren't going anywhere among the GOP's ranks. Not anymore.

Then where do you suggest we go?

Libertarians? Or form a new party and nominate a popular centrist?

[Devout Centrist]

I feel sorry for her loss, but this is utterly insane.

[Devout Centrist]

If people like me leave the party, that just gives them even more power.

Bingo.

The party has already left you, friend. What we are seeing this week is the Republican Party. Its biggest factions are now Trumpites and Cruzians—if you're okay with that reality, stay. But moderates aren't going anywhere among the GOP's ranks. Not anymore.

Then where do you suggest we go?

Libertarians? Or form a new party and nominate a popular centrist?

So here's what you guys are saying. The GOP has so forsaken moderates that it would be a better strategy to join the Libertarians (lol) or start a new party (bigger lol) to get moderate-conservative legislation passed. Yeah that's absolute bs, and that's why people like Brown Line will stay in the grand old party.

Where will you draw the line though? You can only move away from your preferred policies so far.

[Devout Centrist]

She speaks with an accent and sounds like an "immigrant."
Why is this Republican arena clapping for Melania ?

Red and faux "Independent"/Blue avatars do not understand: Republicans are NOT anti-immigrant. We are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Can you understand the difference?

Your party would like to deport the illegals currently here and have no plan for reforming immigration visas beyond some vague, "skilled workers," promises. In addition, Fonald Trump advocates a closed border.

If that's not anti immigration, then I don't know what is.

[Devout Centrist]

wtf is this new american century bs

Sounds like fascism to me.

You've never heard of Project for a New American Century?

[Devout Centrist]

The convention hall is so empty.

[Devout Centrist]

She speaks with an accent and sounds like an "immigrant."
Why is this Republican arena clapping for Melania ?

Red and faux "Independent"/Blue avatars do not understand: Republicans are NOT anti-immigrant. We are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Can you understand the difference?

Your party would like to deport the illegals currently here and have no plan for reforming immigration visas beyond some vague, "skilled workers," promises. In addition, Fonald Trump advocates a closed border.

If that's not anti immigration, then I don't know what is.

Should the law be followed or not? If you come here illegally, should you be allowed to stay if you are caught? You have no right to be here.

A. It's impractical to deport 11 million people.
B. It's much easier to make a path to citizenship for the illegals currently here.

[Devout Centrist]

She speaks with an accent and sounds like an "immigrant."
Why is this Republican arena clapping for Melania ?

Red and faux "Independent"/Blue avatars do not understand: Republicans are NOT anti-immigrant. We are anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. Can you understand the difference?

Your party would like to deport the illegals currently here and have no plan for reforming immigration visas beyond some vague, "skilled workers," promises. In addition, Fonald Trump advocates a closed border.

If that's not anti immigration, then I don't know what is.

Should the law be followed or not? If you come here illegally, should you be allowed to stay if you are caught? You have no right to be here.

A. It's impractical to deport 11 million people.
B. It's much easier to make a path to citizenship for the illegals currently here.

I don't prefer "easy" I prefer compliance.

Then you see why I can't accept an ideology that moves from pragmatism and comprehensive solutions in favor of blind principled stands that hurt more than help.

[Devout Centrist]

""What I did for New York, Donald Trump will do for America."



Seems like a pretty likely prediction.

Giuliani for President of 9/11!

[Devout Centrist]

Why does the Republican Party continue to repudiate environmental protection?

[Devout Centrist]

Real talk: what is the partisan breakdown of Satanists?

I know a Satanist who votes Republican. No joke.

[Devout Centrist]

Real talk: what is the partisan breakdown of Satanists?

I know a Satanist who votes Republican. No joke.

Given some of the trends in Satanist thought involve rebellion and the like, I'd imagine a strong libertarian bent?

Well, he's strongly pro second amendment. He does have a libertarian bent, but not enough to push him towards Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.

[Devout Centrist]

Wasn't tonight supposed to be about the economy and jobs?

It's pretty fitting. Trump almost never talks about fiscal, monetary, or regulatory policy, and whenever jobs are mentioned its always about how trade deals and immigration steals jobs. That's what this convention seems to be like too, mostly focused on security and nationalism related issues (just a basic "USA USA USA!" will get the crowd riled up like no other).

Trump doesn't know anything about fiscal, monetary or regulatory policy.  I don't think he knows much about trade deals either.

Yeah, know nothing ignoramuses that have no idea how the market works become billionaires every day of the week. 

Give me a break. Obviously, Trump knows how to negotiate deals or he wouldn't have never transformed the old Commodore Hotel into the NY Hyatt.

Call Trump a lot of things based on policy disagreements, but an idiot when it comes to finance is definitely not one of those things.

Finance /=/ Economics.

[Devout Centrist]

Guys Flynn is fine
Honestly the democrat snark on Atlas is becoming nearly unbearable.  I was hoping Atlas would be better for watching the election than the sites I watched it with in '12 and '08, but it's just the same democrats making hollow, snarky, low-investment comments and lack of real discussion.

Might be leaving this site soon, tbh.  It's pretty disappointing.

It's a political convention with little to no substance. What's there to discuss?

[Devout Centrist]

Fun fact: My mom knew Laura Ingraham in high school.

Did your mother attempt to suppress those memories?

[Devout Centrist]

Did he...did he just not endorse him?!

I'm at work, what's going on??

[Devout Centrist]

What happened?

Cruz gave a speech advising people to 'vote their conscience' and left to the sound of boos and 'endorse Trump' chants.

Holy ing sh**t.