Republican National Convention **live commentary thread**

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Where/What channel are you guys watching this on?

http://rsbn.tv/2016-republican-national-convention-live-stream/

Official party stream.

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Anti-Trump delegates say they will force roll call vote on rules

They have majority backing from 9 states' delegations per journalists covering this (need 7). Gordon Humphrey delivered it to a convention official. Delivery confirmed by North Dakota delegate Barry Emineth.

Washington, Iowa, Utah, Minnesota, Wyoming, District of Columbia, Virginia, Maine, and Colorado.

Currently people that signed are getting pressured to back off per a few of those journalists.

Haha, a Trump state.

Not really. Trump won the Virginia with a plurality of the vote and did not have a majority of that delegation. Virginia proportionately distributed their delegates. Trump got 17 of the 49 delegates.

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Colorado delegation walked out

The non-elected delegation walks out. Who cares.

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Colorado delegation walked out

The non-elected delegation walks out. Who cares.

Then what's your excuse for Iowa walking out too?

Plurality state. Trump doesn't hold the delegation.

There was no preference poll in Colorado.

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Is this the end of the action then?

More likely than not, yes. Perhaps they put Cruz's name into nomination tomorrow, but they'll lose.

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MSNBC reporting that MN, IA, ME and DC were the delegations that "withdrew" from the roll call vote

That is procedurally what happened. The pro-Trump forces whipped up the vote.

Ironically, three of those states were caucus states, DC was technically a convention. None of them were primary states.

Cruz won Maine. Cruz won IA with a plurality of the vote (proportionally allocated).
Rubio won MN and DC.

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#NeverTrump considering placing another person in nomination for Vice President against Mike Pence

Wth? NeverTrump doesn't like Pence because why?

They are just looking to cause trouble. They don't have the votes.

Could you imagine if they forced a VP Carly Fiorina on Trump though?

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Took a quick trip down South to Syracuse hoping I wouldn't miss much and. . .

You honestly didn't miss much.

#NeverTrump tried to get a roll call on the Rules Committee report and failed miserably. Lost the voice vote. Their attempt to force it via the majority of 8+ delegations fell flat when the vote was whipped and delegates from four of the nine delegations in favor of the coup withdrew their support so that it was no longer a majority....

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THIS IS SUCH BS

GO AWAY PATRICIA SMITH

For what? Telling the truth?

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I feel sorry for her loss, but this is utterly insane.

What part of it is insane, exactly? Do you think this woman, who lost her son is lying about what Hillary! told her? Why would she do that?

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/09/what-did-hillary-clinton-tell-families-people-who-/

Oh please. This was first-party testimony of what Hillary! told Mrs. Smith. Politifact claiming it's inconclusive is ridiculous. Her story was corroborated by another family. Give me a break.

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

The woman who wants answers as to why her son died.  When in grief, one wants to believe any lie that is feed to them, just like her when it comes to republicans.

Fed to her? Hillary! told her this... Not hearsay. A direct quote. She wanted answers, Hillary! lied and stonewalled.

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

How do you explain the other people in the room who say Hillary didn't say what Pat said she did? Cherryl Bennet, mother of Tyrone Woods, said that no video was mentioned.

Gee, is it possible, just possible that these were private conversations between the Smith family and Hillary?

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

The woman who wants answers as to why her son died.  When in grief, one wants to believe any lie that is feed to them, just like her when it comes to republicans.

Fed to her? Hillary! told her this... Not hearsay. A direct quote. She wanted answers, Hillary! lied and stonewalled.

No she didn't.  I love how you keep going on that lie that she keeps telling.  So very fun and stupid of you. 

And what's your basis for knowing better than someone who was actually in the conversation?

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

How do you explain the other people in the room who say Hillary didn't say what Pat said she did? Cherryl Bennet, mother of Tyrone Woods, said that no video was mentioned.

Gee, is it possible, just possible that these were private conversations between the Smith family and Hillary?

Kate Quigley, Jan Stevens, and Barabara Doherty never heard a video mentioned. What Doherty did remember was that Clinton was "sincere and crying." Why would Clinton only tell Smith that a video was the cause?

She didn't JUST tell Mrs. Smith.

From your own sourcing:

Charles Woods, father of CIA operative Tyrone Woods, told talk show host Glenn Beck on Oct. 25, 2012, that Clinton said to him, "We will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted."

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This woman is crazy.

She lost her child.

So she has a good explanation for being crazy. Doesn't change the facts.

Facts? Were you in the room when Hillary! told her what she did? Seems like you are calling Mrs. Smith a liar.

Good job, you figured it out. She's a liar.

Doubtful. Mrs. Smith lost her son.

Hillary! and Obama had the election at stake.

Who has more motive to lie here?

How do you explain the other people in the room who say Hillary didn't say what Pat said she did? Cherryl Bennet, mother of Tyrone Woods, said that no video was mentioned.

Gee, is it possible, just possible that these were private conversations between the Smith family and Hillary?

Kate Quigley, Jan Stevens, and Barabara Doherty never heard a video mentioned. What Doherty did remember was that Clinton was "sincere and crying." Why would Clinton only tell Smith that a video was the cause?

She didn't JUST tell Mrs. Smith.

From your own sourcing:

Charles Woods, father of CIA operative Tyrone Woods, told talk show host Glenn Beck on Oct. 25, 2012, that Clinton said to him, "We will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted."

Yet this conflicts with the other four people mentioned above. The two people who do say they remember a video being mentioned have either appeared on conservative radio or conservative television to say something bad about a liberal, even though what they're saying doesn't line up with what everybody else said.

You do get the concept of a PRIVATE conversation between one family and Hillary! and remarks to the entire group, right?

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The theme of tonight at the RNC is fear... this is disgusting. This is how people in a democracy vote in support of tyranny.

Yeah, because we SHOULDN'T be making a big deal about three people that had no legal right to be here KILLING Americans that belong here.

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The theme of tonight at the RNC is fear... this is disgusting. This is how people in a democracy vote in support of tyranny.

Yeah, because we SHOULDN'T be making a big deal about three people that had no legal right to be here KILLING Americans that belong here.

Because we all know American citizens never commit murder against other American citizens.

Irrelevant. If these leftist cities were not sanctuary cities and these illegals were properly deported, this would never have happened.

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Hopefully this convention helps Americans realize the stakes of this election. This party is unhinged.

And your party is about to nominate a criminal

No charges were ever given to her, unlike your nominee who is on trial for fraud.

Trump is not "on trial for fraud." It's a civil suit, not a criminal one.

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The theme of tonight at the RNC is fear... this is disgusting. This is how people in a democracy vote in support of tyranny.

Yeah, because we SHOULDN'T be making a big deal about three people that had no legal right to be here KILLING Americans that belong here.

Right, because fear is the only way to fix that problem. Let's throw rational policies out the window and just scare people into voting for Trump.

It's called enforcing the law. One party's candidate wants to do that. The other wants the taxpayer to pay for college for illegal immigrants.

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Hopefully this convention helps Americans realize the stakes of this election. This party is unhinged.

And your party is about to nominate a criminal

No charges were ever given to her, unlike your nominee who is on trial for fraud.

Trump is not "on trial for fraud." It's a civil suit, not a criminal one.

All due respect, trials can happen in civil law. Not exclusive to criminal law

No criminal charges are brought in a tort action.

And if you are found liable civilly, you are NOT a criminal. Ask OJ.

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Hopefully this convention helps Americans realize the stakes of this election. This party is unhinged.

And your party is about to nominate a criminal

No charges were ever given to her, unlike your nominee who is on trial for fraud.

Trump is not "on trial for fraud." It's a civil suit, not a criminal one.

All due respect, trials can happen in civil law. Not exclusive to criminal law

No criminal charges are brought in a tort action.

And if you are found liable civilly, you are NOT a criminal. Ask OJ.

I know. But your original comment made it sound like trials in civil suits can't happen, when in fact they obviously can.

No, the way I read the comment in question is that Trump was criminally "charged" with fraud. He wasn't. A civil suit was brought against his organization with an allegation of fraud. Huge difference.

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Wait, is Trump supposed to be here right now?

Yes. To introduce his wife.