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« on: July 19, 2016, 03:43:09 PM »

Does anyone else share Dubya's opinion? Will history remember him as the last GOP president?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/george-w-bush-fears-death-republican-party
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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2016, 04:19:05 PM »

I think he is right.
If Trump doesn't win, that is.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2016, 04:21:36 PM »

No.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2016, 04:27:43 PM »


How a Republican wins?
Realistically, please.
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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2016, 04:38:02 PM »

2024/2028: Meet George P. Bush, my nephew and the next Republican President of the United States
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2016, 04:50:08 PM »

2024/2028: Meet George P. Bush, my nephew and the next Republican President of the United States

Well, George P. Bush is a real possibility.
It seems all Republican presidents are gonna be called George Bush.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2016, 04:57:05 PM »

The Republican Party of 2010 and 2014 won't win another Presidential election again, and the Republican Party of Donald Trump will never win a Presidential election ever, but the *Republican Party* - as in the party that has existed since it formed in the 1850s to fight the expansion of slavery - at least in name, will absolutely have another President.  It survived the Great Depression, folks.  It will change and push forward.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2016, 06:06:00 PM »


After they get their asses kicked in 2016 and again in 2020 when they nominate Ted Cruz or Joni Ernst or Tom Cotton or another base-pandering bozo, they'll finally come around and nominate a John Kasich type who isn't a total clown. After 16 years of Democratic presidents, incumbent fatigue will finally catch up to us and if the GOP nominates someone like Ike, they'll win.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2016, 06:17:26 PM »

I do believe that the end is near for the GOP.
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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2016, 06:41:51 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?
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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2016, 06:49:34 PM »

George W. Bush may be right about that, but he has himself and his administration far more to blame than Trump (who only came about because of the failures of his administration).
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2016, 06:58:12 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2016, 07:31:00 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.


They did win the popular vote in 2004. But since 1988, that's the only one they've won the popular vote in.
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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2016, 07:41:34 PM »

Dubya is right. So long as the Democrats are getting 90% of the black vote and 70%+ of the latino vote, it's almost impossible for the GOP to win a national election

Why the GOP backed away from the 2006 immigration reform and took a hard line against it is bewildering to me. They had a chance to capture the Latino vote and be the party for the latinos.
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« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2016, 08:20:44 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.


In the four decades or so following the Great Depression Democrats outnumbered Republicans literally 2 to 1 if not more. That didn't stop the GOP from winning more often than not nationally.
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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2016, 08:46:29 PM »

Oh yes, just like LBJ was the last Democrat after teh Silent Majority went to Nixon, and then Watergate happened as a special case to let a Jimmy-who in, but 1980 fixed it so that no Democrat would come after Carter surely....

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2016, 09:12:33 PM »

2024/2028: Meet George P. Bush, my nephew and the next Republican Democratic President of the United States

corrected.
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2016, 09:51:12 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.


They did win the popular vote in 2004. But since 1988, that's the only one they've won the popular vote in.

... Since "arbitrary date*", no Democrat has won without someone from the Greater South on the ticket. Obviously if Hillary picks Warren, they're doomed.

*1920
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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2016, 10:02:05 PM »

2024/2028: Meet George P. Bush, my nephew and the next Republican Democratic President of the United States

corrected.

Hahahaha
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Mr. Smith
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2016, 10:14:28 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.


They did win the popular vote in 2004. But since 1988, that's the only one they've won the popular vote in.

... Since "arbitrary date*", no Democrat has won without someone from the Greater South on the ticket. Obviously if Hillary picks Warren, they're doomed.

*1920

I think you mean 1940 actually.
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« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2016, 10:28:55 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.


They did win the popular vote in 2004. But since 1988, that's the only one they've won the popular vote in.

... Since "arbitrary date*", no Democrat has won without someone from the Greater South on the ticket. Obviously if Hillary picks Warren, they're doomed.

*1920

I think you mean 1940 actually.

That's an exception because of the fact that FDR had been on a national ticket three times before, obviously. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2016, 12:44:12 PM »

Dubya is right. So long as the Democrats are getting 90% of the black vote and 70%+ of the latino vote, it's almost impossible for the GOP to win a national election

Why the GOP backed away from the 2006 immigration reform and took a hard line against it is bewildering to me. They had a chance to capture the Latino vote and be the party for the latinos.
Yes Immigration Reform would help but Latinos are not just gonna hand you their votes at the ballot box year in and out because you voted for Immigration Reform. You have to earn their votes. Immigration Reform was not Latinos Voters top issue in 2012 either as their top issue was the economy and I think even the issue of Education outranked Immigration as well.

They took a tough line in 2007 against Immigration because of the Conservative Talk Radio crowd (mainly Rush Limbaugh)being against it.
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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2016, 12:47:29 PM »


After they get their asses kicked in 2016 and again in 2020 when they nominate Ted Cruz or Joni Ernst or Tom Cotton or another base-pandering bozo, they'll finally come around and nominate a John Kasich type who isn't a total clown. After 16 years of Democratic presidents, incumbent fatigue will finally catch up to us and if the GOP nominates someone like Ike, they'll win.
Ernst-Whenever she talks she sounds like Sarah Palin. She isn't stupid though. Maybe she could be a VP pick one day.

Cotton-I think you are underrating him. I think he is smart.

Cruz-Well we agree there that he is too far right to win in a general.
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« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2016, 01:05:35 PM »

Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2004?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2006/2008?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2010?
Remember when the Republicans were doomed after 2012?
Remember when the Democrats were doomed after 2014?

IceSpear, Republicans have not won the popular vote in presidential elections since 1988. That's a mightily long time. Too long to fathom. And there is no end in site of this electoral drought.

The 2004 election is a special case of a war time president. Where other presidents won landslide victories, GWB only managed to squeak out a win solely dependent on one state and against a very weak opponent.

The reason Republicans do well in midterms is because the voters don't want a total domination by the Democratic Party yet.

Let us not fool ourselves. There are more Democrats in the USA than there are Republicans. This advantage is only going to grow larger.

Party ID has been stable for like 20 years with either each Party ID being tied or the Dems having a 6-7% point lead.
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« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2016, 11:36:36 AM »

Dubya is right. So long as the Democrats are getting 90% of the black vote and 70%+ of the latino vote, it's almost impossible for the GOP to win a national election

Why the GOP backed away from the 2006 immigration reform and took a hard line against it is bewildering to me. They had a chance to capture the Latino vote and be the party for the latinos.
Didn't Ronald Reagan support immigration reform back in the 1980s, though? If so, then I would like to point out that Hispanics and Latinos still appear to have overwhelmingly voted for Democrats even after this 1980s immigration reform was successfully passed.
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