Trump's chances of winning Wisconsin just got lower

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FFS, when it's harder to rent Super Mario Kart than vote, there is something wrong with your state.

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Voter ID is not particularly challenging to obtain. All it takes is a little bit of time that pretty much every adult will have to do anyways.

Sheesh, I've had mine since I was 16. Was a bit of work then, but since, not very much.

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America is the only western democracy that doesn't.

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'Large portion of society?'

There are over 240 million Americans with a valid driver's license. Only 185 million Americans voted. This is a complete non-issue. And I'm not even counting other forms of valid picture ID.

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Actually, the UK does. Registration requires you to provide your national insurance number.

Again - America is the only western nation that does not require photo ID when voting.

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Christ, I've helped a friend obtain hers after she lost hers. Took all of about half a day to get it done. I helped drive her to where you need to go. If you're too lazy to get your ID you shouldn't vote. If a dude with a disability can get *HIS* so can you.

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No, the purpose of voting laws is to ensure things like secret ballots, etc. But we all know you don't actually care about such things.

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Yes, because while you live there you don't vote there.

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Yes, preserving the actual election is meaningless in a democracy.

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Nearly everyone has photo ID. More americans have driver's licenses than vote. If lack of access were a problem, why is this the case?

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How many millions of Americans? One? Two?

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Almost all americans have photo ID. The most common reason not to have one is because you're in the process of replacing it because it got stolen. That is all.

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You do understand that your number of 215 is greater than the 185 million who did vote? And that it doesn't include other forms of photo ID?

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Argue with yourself, your own evidence makes it clear that Americans find getting their driver's license to be easier than voting.

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And while 215 million actually have their driver's license and 185 million actually voted.

There's a little problem with your narrative if more people have their photo ID than vote.

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Then why did only 185 million people actually vote?

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If a disabled person can get their ID, so can you. If you're arguing that being black makes you unable to get photo ID, then why are people who are in a wheelchair quite able to do so? Or the blind?

If in today's America you choose not to get a photo ID - it's not because you're prevented from getting it, but rather that you're too lazy to get it.

I also challenged the statement that 'millions of people do not have photo ID'. How many millions? 1, 2?

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I don't see you citing any survey.

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So it's my job to prove your argument?

From your own source:

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Junk Poll!

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It's good to see that only three percent of white Americans are too lazy to get their photo ID!

We don't even need a law to keep 25 percent of black people voting. Well, all 4 of them that they managed to poll, they found that Cletus didn't get his. It's an epidemic.

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It's called photo ID. It's not hard to get it, and almost all adults already have it.

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Absolutely, because it is not difficult to get.

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Why are drivers licenses photo ID? For the same reason why photo ID should be used for voting. As for getting into the office to get it done, we're looking at about a 4 hour inconvenience, which the vast majority of adults will do anyways.

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I have helped a minority lady obtain her photo ID after it was stolen from her. Again, this did not take long and I felt it was my civic duty to do what I could.

I used to be the equivalent for Uber in the community and would charge people 10 dollars a ride to get these sorts of things done.

What you're talking about and attributing to racism, I called a business opportunity, and I made a fair amount of money supplying that community with the convenience of riding in an automobile for the price they were willing to pay, with a trusted driver and a car in good condition.

So, again - if you had 10 bucks on you, you could get it done in an afternoon, even if you had no access to public transit or to a car. And this was in the days before Uber.

I'm sorry, I've lived in the South. That dog ain't gonna hunt.

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If you can get to the grocery store to feed yourself, you can get ID.

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You still haven't mounted an actual argument against 185 million actual voters and 215 million driver's licenses.

If people are unwilling to use their driver's license to actually go out and vote, then the issue is not that people are being denied access to ID, but rather - that people don't value voting as much as they value having photo ID.

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Then what is your issue with having photo ID required to vote?

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Well, let's see. You're arguing that it's difficult to obtain the photo ID that you now possess?

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I love how you assume that because I believe that voter ID should be required before voting that I would support literacy tests. No, I don't.

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Such as?

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Looks like the maximum distance is about 50 miles. Pretty good coverage, IMO.

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I made money because I supplied a service that Uber has since decided they needed to do too.

I didn't realize you think that Uber is confined to Texas only.

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That's been the case since the 30s. Arguing that those over 86 have an issue strikes to me as political opportunism. Time to get real about voter ID.