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« on: July 20, 2016, 12:52:47 AM »

Sweet, the DNC outreach program of smokes for votes remains alive and well in Wisconsin!

Same-day registration with no ID. What could possibly go wrong?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 01:48:33 AM »

Sweet, the DNC outreach program of smokes for votes remains alive and well in Wisconsin!

Same-day registration with no ID. What could possibly go wrong?

Sorry your party's attempt at voter disenfranchisement didn't work out.
Yeah, because using an ID to vote is such an onerous requirement in 2016 where you have to use an ID to buy cigarettes (which Dems can, in turn, give away to induce people to vote), buy alcohol, sign any legal documents, go to the movies, get into a bar, fly, get a discount, open a bank account, etc., etc., etc.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 02:18:51 AM »

I'm pretty sure that they proof you in order to get into an R-rated movie if you are a teenager nowadays.

You can also add to that list, purchasing items in some stores via credit card require IDs, at the discretion of the shop owner.
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 02:21:58 AM »

Sweet, the DNC outreach program of smokes for votes remains alive and well in Wisconsin!

Same-day registration with no ID. What could possibly go wrong?

Sorry your party's attempt at voter disenfranchisement didn't work out.
Yeah, because using an ID to vote is such an onerous requirement in 2016 where you have to use an ID to buy cigarettes (which Dems can, in turn, give away to induce people to vote), buy alcohol, sign any legal documents, go to the movies, get into a bar, fly, get a discount, open a bank account, etc., etc., etc.

1.Republicans can't do these things as well?

2.Good, if it's not a big deal then lets have the government issue vote card IDs to all people with the full cost paid for by the taxpayer.  After all, none of those things you listed are things that poor people can really afford.

I mean, if this isn't really about disenfranchising people and if some people say they can't afford some of the costs associated with getting an ID, then there really is no reason to oppose this.

Voting, after all, is a Constitutionally protected right.
1) Of course Republicans can and have been accused of similar tactics. It was subs for votes with Romney.
2) I am pretty sure most states have a low or no cost ID for poor people, who ironically need to show ID when they apply for or renew their welfare benefits...

But then again, I digress.
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 09:18:51 AM »

This issue is so stupid.  As others have said, the government should levy a tax to provide everyone with a free voter ID card and require everyone to show it at the polls in order to vote (while still accepting driver's licenses and passports).  It's amazing this isn't a universally supported idea that literally combat disenfranchisement and fraud at the same time.  Guess some people aren't worried about those two things in reality.
But, but, but.... Cemeteries in Crook County disenfranchised!!!
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 01:46:26 AM »

This issue is so stupid.  As others have said, the government should levy a tax to provide everyone with a free voter ID card and require everyone to show it at the polls in order to vote (while still accepting driver's licenses and passports).  It's amazing this isn't a universally supported idea that literally combat disenfranchisement and fraud at the same time.  Guess some people aren't worried about those two things in reality.
But, but, but.... Cemeteries in Crook County disenfranchised!!!

But, but but... idiotic historic arguments. 
But, but, but... Someone can't recognize an obvious joke.
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2016, 12:58:14 AM »

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Voter ID is not particularly challenging to obtain. All it takes is a little bit of time that pretty much every adult will have to do anyways.

Sheesh, I've had mine since I was 16. Was a bit of work then, but since, not very much.

You were born in an era in which practically everyone is born in a hospital, or at the very least with some medical professional in attendance and who got a government-issued birth certificate right away.  Believe it or not that wasn't always the case, especially for those from disadvantaged backgrounds.  It isn't teenagers who are impacted by these laws but the elderly poor for the most part.  Granted, the Democrats exaggerate the scope of the problem, but not nearly as much as Republicans exaggerate the scope of voter fraud.
No, this issue is 1000% overstated.

The only folks that would realistically be disenfranchised in this day and age are those that:
1) never worked for someone other than themselves in their lives (IDs have been required for I-9 purposes for a while now);
2) never took any form of government assistance (IDs are generally given out and required to get money from social services); and
3) never had a driver's license.

The number of elderly that have been born not in hospitals is getting smaller and smaller each day as those from the "greatest generation" are unfortunately leaving this Earth. Most folks that were born post-WWII were born in hospitals.

The number of people that never did 1,2 and 3 in this society where most women are in the workforce and really have been post-WWII is miniscule.
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