2016: Kasich vs Sanders

[Pericles]

What if the 2016 election was Ohio Governor John Kasich vs Bernie Sanders? Say Sanders wins Iowa and Nevada, loses Super Tuesday less badly, then wins Illinois, Ohio and  Missouri, and bursts ahead of Hillary Clinton, winning a close contest despite a late effort by Clinton to get the superdelegates to overrule the pledged delegates, he scrapes over the line and is the Democratic nominee. On the Republican side, Trump gets less attention as Sanders surges, and so falters on March 15 and coming primaries, failing to get a majority of delegates. With polls showing Trump doing terribly, unpledged delegates don't support him. The Republicans are right now having a chaotic brokered convention, and the result is Kasich surges ahead as the electable candidate after Paul Ryan and Mitt Romney decline to run, and Cruz and Trump rip each other to pieces. The result is Kasich, despite a poor primary performance, is the GOP nominee. It is Kasich vs Sanders. What is the result? Can Kasich win as the more moderate candidate and get a broad appeal, or will divisions in the GOP doom him, and Sanders and his populist message sweep to victory? Thoughts?

[Pericles]

I think Sanders would actually win, he would have more enthusiastic support, but it would be close.

[snip]

Bernie Sanders/Tulsi Gabbard - 308 EV (48.33%)
John Kasich/Joni Ernst - 230 EV (44.21%)
Gary Johnson/William Weld - 0 EV (7.17%)

Looks relatively plausible, but I think Johnson would do worse with two popular candidates rather than two immensely unpopular candidates. Also, what about Kasich/Rubio. Rubio kept his delegates after he lost, so he might leverage his way to be VP.

[Pericles]

I think Sanders would actually win, he would have more enthusiastic support, but it would be close.

[snip]

Bernie Sanders/Tulsi Gabbard - 308 EV (48.33%)
John Kasich/Joni Ernst - 230 EV (44.21%)
Gary Johnson/William Weld - 0 EV (7.17%)

Looks relatively plausible, but I think Johnson would do worse with two popular candidates rather than two immensely unpopular candidates. Also, what about Kasich/Rubio. Rubio kept his delegates after he lost, so he might leverage his way to be VP. So 279 Sanders-259 Kasich.

In that case, Kasich would likely flip Florida and make the race even closer.

I picked a different running mate because it isn't all too common for a nominee to pick a former opponent.

Ok, but there is Reagan/Bush, and a brokered convention would shake things up a bit.

[evergreenarbor]

Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL): 299 EVs
Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO): 239 EVs

Bernie's populism lets him hold on to some competitive states in the Midwest and West, and even lets him pick up Alaska. Kasich runs on a moderate and pragmatic platform and wins competitive states in the Rust Belt and South.

[Kingpoleon]

306: Governor John Kasich/Former Senator Scott Brown - 51.3%
232: Senator Bernie Sanders/Mayor Bill De Blasio - 45.8%

Others: 2.9%

[heatcharger]

Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Congressman Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) - 275 EVs (47.7%)
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 263 EVs (47.5%)
Fmr Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Fmr Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) - 0 EVs (4.1%)

Bernie in a nail-biter.

[Sir Mohamed]

Folks, Bernie would win against Drumpf or Cruz, but not against Kasich.

✓ Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 291 EVs.; 50.8%
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND): 247 EVs.; 48.0%

[Spark]

Governor John Kasich (R-OH) / Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 298 EVs, (52.4%)
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 240 EVs, (47.6%)

[President Johnson]

Johnny beats Bernard pretty easily.

Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 312 EV. (51.67%)
Senator Bernard Sanders (D-VT)/Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM): 226 EV. (46.74%)

[Breton Racer]

Sanders/Gabbard- 292 Electoral Votes (50.8%)     

Kasich/Rubio- 246 Electoral Votes (47.9%)

[nicholas.slaydon]

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[Chips]

Sanders does well in some areas but loses in others. Ultimately, It is the same map as actual 2016 except Kasich also wins NV and VA.

John Kasich: 325 electoral votes
Bernie Sanders: 213 electoral votes

[lord_moxley]