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Mallow
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« on: July 20, 2016, 08:07:24 AM »
« edited: July 20, 2016, 08:14:11 AM by Mallow »

Marriage is a government benefit meant to incentivize and/or endorse something we consider socially desirable.  

Social conservatives do not see gay marriage as a social good, because they see it as immoral behavior and/or causing undesirable outcomes.

Because of that, they see gay marriage as an imposition because it uses shared government resources/institutions to incentivize/endorse something they think is wrong or undesirable.  They see that as expanding government (and...they're not wrong in the technical sense) for an objectionable reason, so they're against it.

I'm not endorsing this view.  I vehemently disagree with it, in fact.  But it's not that hard to understand.

But using that logic, anything that the majority feels is "wrong" or "undesirable" (when no actual, demonstrable harm is done) is subject to separate government treatment. It's the same logic that allowed illegal interracial marriage, segregation, "separate but equal", Jim Crow, etc. So yes, it is hard for me to understand how a person would endorse that kind of position when historically it has always ended up making the supporters look like foolish bigots.

Again, these are the same people who talk about gun control using the language "Don't like it? Don't get a gun." And yet when they don't like something, banning it is perfectly reasonable?
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Mallow
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 10:52:25 AM »

I can give the small government answer to this. The concept is that the family should be able to look after itself and it's own members and not the state. Homosexual 'marriage' doesn't do anything that Families in general do - it's not self sustaining, you don't have a second generation - so you end up with two older people without younger folks willing to help in. Who do they turn to? The state.

And that doesn't even get into all the assorted health issues - the fact that 80 percent of gonorrhea cases are 2 percent of the population. It makes even less sense to clamp down on smoking but support homosexuality.

So, infertile people shouldn't be allowed to marry, or people who just flat out don't want to have kids?

Let's not inject logic into this discussion, now.
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