Would the Green Party be more popular if it wasn't named the "Green" Party?

[Blue3]

Would the Green Party be more popular if it wasn't named the "Green" Party?


Most Americans, even progressives, don't see Environmentalism as their #1 issue. They care more about income inequality and the banks, taxes on the rich, anti-discrimination (racism, homophobia, sexism, etc.), campaign reform, infrastructure investment, single-payer healthcare, free college, using government spending to create jobs, human rights, even legalizing marijuana etc. Some of them can be linked to environmentalism, but environmentalism isn't the selling point.

Environmentalism usually only comes up when it's connected with Clean Energy, and even then Clean Energy's ties to other issues like jobs and infrastructure is more emphasized as a selling point that its ties to environmentalism for environmentalism's sake. Progressives say climate change is a concern, but it's not #1, the answer is usually to slap a tax on carbon, invest more in clean energy, and then move on and let it happen. Of course almost everyone says they care about the environment, but environmentalism by itself doesn't sell as well compared to these other issues, doesn't get as many people's passions and energies up.

And the Green Party, basically the party of the more purist progressives who feel the Democratic Party is too center-right, decides to be called the "Green" Party. Putting the environmental first.

Some people might not even know they are NOT a single-issue party.

(also "Green" party would be like calling a socialist party the "Red" party... it doesn't command the same amount of respect as Democratic/Republican/Libertarian).

I know the Green Party has a lot of other issues too. They need better nominees, and need to begin focusing more on local/state races. As well as try and get on the ballot in all 50 states.

But do you also think the Green Party would me more popular if it was named something else? Even something as simple as the "Progressive Party" (though that's probably already taken... though why not merge?) Just something other than the "Green" Party.



And for those here who might now know that it's not a single-issue party, here's their 4 pillars and 10 key values:

http://www.gp.org/four_pillars_10_kv

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[Zioneer]

Well, the Justice Party, with most of the same policies as the Green Party, did terribly in 2012, though that might have been because it was a one-man political vehicle for Rocky Anderson.

[Blue3]

Well, the Justice Party, with most of the same policies as the Green Party, did terribly in 2012, though that might have been because it was a one-man political vehicle for Rocky Anderson.

The Green Party already has a much bigger party apparatus compared to other 3rd parties, only the Libertarian Party is bigger. I'm saying it needs to be renamed. We need more mergers among 3rd parties, not more 3rd parties.

[dead0man]

Probably.

[Kingpoleon]

The Justice Party had a much saner platform than the Green Party.

[Zioneer]

Well, the Justice Party, with most of the same policies as the Green Party, did terribly in 2012, though that might have been because it was a one-man political vehicle for Rocky Anderson.

The Green Party already has a much bigger party apparatus compared to other 3rd parties, only the Libertarian Party is bigger. I'm saying it needs to be renamed. We need more mergers among 3rd parties, not more 3rd parties.

Hmm... well, the Democrats and Republicans have pretty generic names, so we need something as generic as that. Progressive Party might work, as would Justice Party, but they could also revive the Populist Party or the Whigs or something like that.

[Crumpets]

Yes, but any remotely accurate title (Left-Populists?) would still be pretty unappealing to the population as a whole. Sure they can call themselves the "Progressive Party" and they'd be more popular, but it wouldn't be appropriate.

[Blue3]

Yes, but any remotely accurate title (Left-Populists?) would still be pretty unappealing to the population as a whole. Sure they can call themselves the "Progressive Party" and they'd be more popular, but it wouldn't be appropriate.

Why wouldn't "Progressive Party" be appropriate?

Also, "Justice Party" makes it sound too much like a Trump-ish law & order, death penalty supporting, unforgiving criminal justice system, kind of vibe.

[DINGO Joe]

Maybe take a page from the old Bull-Moose party, call themselves the Rabid Beavers or something.

[Suburbia]

Would the Green Party be more popular if it wasn't named the "Green" Party?


Most Americans, even progressives, don't see Environmentalism as their #1 issue. They care more about income inequality and the banks, taxes on the rich, anti-discrimination (racism, homophobia, sexism, etc.), campaign reform, infrastructure investment, single-payer healthcare, free college, using government spending to create jobs, human rights, even legalizing marijuana etc. Some of them can be linked to environmentalism, but environmentalism isn't the selling point.

Environmentalism usually only comes up when it's connected with Clean Energy, and even then Clean Energy's ties to other issues like jobs and infrastructure is more emphasized as a selling point that its ties to environmentalism for environmentalism's sake. Progressives say climate change is a concern, but it's not #1, the answer is usually to slap a tax on carbon, invest more in clean energy, and then move on and let it happen. Of course almost everyone says they care about the environment, but environmentalism by itself doesn't sell as well compared to these other issues, doesn't get as many people's passions and energies up.

And the Green Party, basically the party of the more purist progressives who feel the Democratic Party is too center-right, decides to be called the "Green" Party. Putting the environmental first.

Some people might not even know they are NOT a single-issue party.

(also "Green" party would be like calling a socialist party the "Red" party... it doesn't command the same amount of respect as Democratic/Republican/Libertarian).

I know the Green Party has a lot of other issues too. They need better nominees, and need to begin focusing more on local/state races. As well as try and get on the ballot in all 50 states.

But do you also think the Green Party would me more popular if it was named something else? Even something as simple as the "Progressive Party" (though that's probably already taken... though why not merge?) Just something other than the "Green" Party.



And for those here who might now know that it's not a single-issue party, here's their 4 pillars and 10 key values:

http://www.gp.org/four_pillars_10_kv

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The Green Party has no stance on the military. Blatant disrespect. A bunch of peace loving, pot smoking Lennonites. There will NEVER be peace on this earth. Get with it. Period.

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Would the Green Party be more popular if it wasn't named the "Green" Party?


Most Americans, even progressives, don't see Environmentalism as their #1 issue. They care more about income inequality and the banks, taxes on the rich, anti-discrimination (racism, homophobia, sexism, etc.), campaign reform, infrastructure investment, single-payer healthcare, free college, using government spending to create jobs, human rights, even legalizing marijuana etc. Some of them can be linked to environmentalism, but environmentalism isn't the selling point.

Environmentalism usually only comes up when it's connected with Clean Energy, and even then Clean Energy's ties to other issues like jobs and infrastructure is more emphasized as a selling point that its ties to environmentalism for environmentalism's sake. Progressives say climate change is a concern, but it's not #1, the answer is usually to slap a tax on carbon, invest more in clean energy, and then move on and let it happen. Of course almost everyone says they care about the environment, but environmentalism by itself doesn't sell as well compared to these other issues, doesn't get as many people's passions and energies up.

And the Green Party, basically the party of the more purist progressives who feel the Democratic Party is too center-right, decides to be called the "Green" Party. Putting the environmental first.

Some people might not even know they are NOT a single-issue party.

(also "Green" party would be like calling a socialist party the "Red" party... it doesn't command the same amount of respect as Democratic/Republican/Libertarian).

I know the Green Party has a lot of other issues too. They need better nominees, and need to begin focusing more on local/state races. As well as try and get on the ballot in all 50 states.

But do you also think the Green Party would me more popular if it was named something else? Even something as simple as the "Progressive Party" (though that's probably already taken... though why not merge?) Just something other than the "Green" Party.



And for those here who might now know that it's not a single-issue party, here's their 4 pillars and 10 key values:

http://www.gp.org/four_pillars_10_kv

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The Green Party has no stance on the military. Blatant disrespect. A bunch of peace loving, pot smoking Lennonites. There will NEVER be peace on this earth. Get with it. Period.

Well, all that they're saying is that we, as a society, should put aside all this fighting and give peace a chance.

[Bismarck]

In the sense that they wouldn't be viewed as a one issue party, yes. They still are a bunch of far left loons and would stay a marginal third party.

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

I dunno, if they also actually bothered with non-POTUS politics then maybe.

The Greens and Libertarians are the people that only hang out on the '16 board on Atlas, but for the country at large.

[Ban my account ffs!]

You can put lipstick on a pig...

[Illiniwek]

They could probably use a rebrand, but they won't be going anywhere unless some prominent liberal/progressive politicians join the party. I'm sorry, but nobody is going to flock to a Jill Stein party. They need big names.

[Comrade Funk]

Most of their hardcore base is crazy, like the Libertarians. They nominated a racist in 2008.

[Famous Mortimer]

No. No third party will be popular because of first past the post. The Green Party needs massive constitutional change to the way this country holds elections, not a name change.

[Phony Moderate]

I'd say that most people across the globe who vote for an environmentalist party, regardless of nationality, do not see environmentalism as the no. 1 issue. In many cases it's simply because the mainstream social democratic party isn't left-wing enough.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Green parties are normally capped at about 10% though, unless they find some really popular personality to run on.