Opinion of US Presidents Series: John Quincy Adams through John Tyler
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John Quincy Adams: FF		  
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John Quincy Adams: HP		  
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Andrew Jackson: FF		  
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Andrew Jackson: HP		  
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Martin Van Buren: FF		  
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Martin Van Buren: HP		  
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William H. Harrison: FF		  
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William H. Harrison: HP		  
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John Tyler: FF		  
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John Tyler: HP		  
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« on: July 21, 2016, 06:29:07 PM »
Prior FF Results
George Washington: 81.8%
John Adams: 55.8%
Thomas Jefferson: 75%
James Madison: 76.2%
James Monroe: 72.7%
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« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2016, 06:32:12 PM »
JQA is the only FF
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« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2016, 06:39:56 PM »
All HP but JQA and Van Buren.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2016, 06:46:26 PM »

This, and WHH I'm neutral (how can you not be)
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2016, 07:11:45 PM »
John Quincy Adams and Van Buren qualify for FF status if you're judging by their entire careers, and not just their time in the White House. All were terrible presidents.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2016, 07:13:12 PM »
Quote from: Fmr. Senator Truman on July 21, 2016, 07:11:45 PM
John Quincy Adams and Van Buren qualify for FF status if you're judging by their entire careers, and not just their time in the White House. All were terrible presidents.
Van Buren at least wasn't super elitist or racist.
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2016, 07:13:34 PM »
Jackson is a massive FF.

The rest are HP.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2016, 07:28:57 PM »

Agree with this.

There are many FF elements about Jackson's tenure (expanding the franchise, standing up to the Nullifiers, etc), but there is just way to much horrible stuff for him not be a HP.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2016, 08:09:55 PM »
Quote from: Santander on July 21, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Jackson is a massive FF.

The rest are HP.

Yeah, unless you're Black or an American Indian, right?

Jackson might be one of the five worst Presidents we've ever had.  I'm glad his worthless a^s got booted.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2016, 08:10:58 PM »
Quote from: RINO Tom on July 21, 2016, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: Santander on July 21, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Jackson is a massive FF.

The rest are HP.

Yeah, unless you're Black or an American Indian, right?

Jackson might be one of the five worst Presidents we've ever had.  I'm glad his worthless a^s got booted.
Historians almost unanimously disagree with you.
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« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2016, 08:12:06 PM »
Quote from: RINO Tom on July 21, 2016, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: Santander on July 21, 2016, 07:13:34 PM
Jackson is a massive FF.

The rest are HP.

Yeah, unless you're Black or an American Indian, right?
Or a poor white who can't feed his family anymore because Jackson's insane monetary policies plunged the country into a depression.
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2016, 09:15:14 PM »
All HP
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« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2016, 09:41:31 PM »
All FF except Tyler.
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« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2016, 11:00:57 PM »
JQA and Van Buren are FFs; the rest are HP.
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« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2016, 11:17:58 PM »
I gave all FF status except Jackson.
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2016, 11:30:19 PM »
Quote from: evergreenarbor on July 21, 2016, 11:00:57 PM
JQA and Van Buren are FFs; the rest are HP.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2016, 11:53:34 PM »
FF for Jackson, HP for the rest.

Relatively new here, so I don't know what those acronyms mean. Figured out that FF=good and HP=bad through context.
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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2016, 03:31:48 AM »
Van Buren and Tyler are clear FFs, two of the most underrated Presidents. The rest are pretty neutral for different reasons. Jackson is a mix of very bad and very good; I went with FF on average but it's tough to ignore the bad. Adams is more of a bland, ineffective figure; I went with HP on average. WHH is DOA.
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« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2016, 03:59:19 AM »
Van Buren was definitely FF, Jackson lesser so, and flawed FF.  JQA was average and not that good, so HP?, but split on that. Tyler and Harrison were huge HP's though.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2016, 08:27:34 AM »
All HPs, except Harrison. But as prez too short in office; neutral therefore.
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2016, 09:32:02 AM »
Generally agree with people here. Adams and van Buren were good if we go by their whole careers (and that's what I always do), all were terrible Presidents, and Tyler was a traitor and the worst of the worst.
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2016, 11:16:23 AM »
FF for all except Tyler.
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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 11:16:36 AM »
Quote from: sparkey on July 22, 2016, 03:31:48 AM
Van Buren and Tyler are clear FFs, two of the most underrated Presidents. The rest are pretty neutral for different reasons. Jackson is a mix of very bad and very good; I went with FF on average but it's tough to ignore the bad. Adams is more of a bland, ineffective figure; I went with HP on average. WHH is DOA.
Yes, John Tyler is one of the bests in my opinion also.
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« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2016, 01:23:31 PM »
Quote from: HisGrace on July 21, 2016, 11:53:34 PM
FF for Jackson, HP for the rest.

Relatively new here, so I don't know what those acronyms mean. Figured out that FF=good and HP=bad through context.

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« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2016, 09:19:11 PM »
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