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Tender Branson
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« on: July 22, 2016, 11:38:12 AM »
« edited: July 25, 2016, 01:43:41 PM by Tender Branson »
Major police operation ongoing, several injured.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36870874

http://www.br.de/nachrichten/oez-olympia-einkaufszentrum-schiesserei-100.html
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2016, 11:42:57 AM »
At least 15 dead, says a major Munich newspaper:

http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.polizei-im-grosseinsatz-schiesserei-im-oez-lage-unklar.8ce5c50f-d0c6-4f76-b879-6850a0b4e4f4.html

Sad
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2016, 11:50:05 AM »
The "15 dead" number is according to eyewitnesses who saw "several dead people on the floor".

So, let's hope the actual number is much lower ... we need to wait until the police operation is over.
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Tender Branson
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E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2016, 11:54:22 AM »
Police has now officially confirmed several dead people (no number).

The killer(s) are still on the run, apparently they went from one shopping center (the OEZ) to another shopping center nearby (the MONA), or into the nearby subway station.

The subway is meanwhile closed.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2016, 12:09:34 PM »
Something strange:

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The same journalist was at the shopping center today before the attack ... (and is now reporting in front of it).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2016, 12:14:13 PM »
This looks like something bigger:

All doctors at home in the Munich area have been told to rush to the hospitals for emergency surgeries.

A worker from a drugstore in the other shopping center has reported several injured there and the killer(s) are still on the run ...
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2016, 12:17:59 PM »
BTW:

Today is also the 5-year anniversary of the Breivik killings in Norway.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2016, 12:22:13 PM »
Quote from: Libertarian Socialist on July 22, 2016, 12:19:38 PM
My first thought was terrorism. Do we know the motive?

Anyway, this is really sad. I hope this doesn't get worse.

No, because the police operation is still ongoing.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2016, 12:22:46 PM »
Apparently, the killer(s) escaped into the subway.

Meanwhile, shots have been fired at the Stachus square.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2016, 12:27:25 PM »
The killer(s) are definitely on the run somewhere in the Inner City. There has been a new shooting at a McDonald's.

The Police and SWAT teams are very nervous and running heavily armed through the city.

All public transport has been halted and police asked everyone to stay indoors.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2016, 12:31:47 PM »
The Bavarian Civil Alert Service has just issued a warning for Marienplatz and Karlsplatz squares (shots being fired and people should get the f**k away from there or stay inside).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2016, 12:50:27 PM »
The police just tweeted they have no clue where the killers currently are (hiding).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2016, 01:03:32 PM »
Munich police confirms 3 killers (still on the run).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2016, 01:19:22 PM »
One of my high school classmates is now living in Munich ... I hope she's OK.

Need to text her at WhatsApp.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2016, 02:42:11 PM »
There are conflicting reports about the killers from eyewitnesses. Some say they looked "foreign", others say they shouted xenophobic slurs ...

One woman even said a killer was wearing a Santa Claus costume.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2016, 02:56:14 PM »
Good thing: it seems they ran out of ammunition.

Bad thing: they are still not caught.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2016, 01:10:26 AM »
Quote from: Snowguy716 on July 23, 2016, 12:36:27 AM
While I could be mistaken...from other posts in this thread, it appears Omega 21 might be a German.

He said he's from Bosnia.

Anyway, it seems this was mostly the act of a guy with psychological/drug-related problems.

He may have radicalized recently, but that's not sure (let's see what the police finds in his room).
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2016, 04:38:31 AM »
The police will give a press conference soon.

They searched the apartment of the attacker in the morning in the Maxvorstadt district (he still lived with his parents and was a student).

The victims were all young people between 14-21 years old, except for one over-40 year old woman.

3 people are still critically injured, incl. a 12-year old boy.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2016, 04:56:01 AM »
From the press conference:

* attacker was in psychiatric care
* was taking antidepressants
* failed recently at a school exam
* amok literature was found in his room
* no connection whatsoever to IS or radical Islam
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
Atlas Institution
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2016, 04:59:09 AM »
The weapon was an illegal Glock, with the serial number removed.

Police is still trying to find out where he got this illegal weapon.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2016, 09:18:19 AM »
According to studies, most serial killers are right-wingers, so it's not that surprising that he wanted to kill foreigners. Doesn't really matter if he was German-Iranian, he was born in Germany and lived there for 18 years.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2016, 10:44:14 AM »
Quote from: rob in cal on July 23, 2016, 10:36:50 AM
  In the BBC article it says both parents were asylum seekers in the 1990's, so he was full Iranian in ethnicity I'm guessing?  Politically it would seem that those on the right can still argue that this is the long term effect of non-European immigration.  These problems might not show up immediately, but do in the 2nd generation, as we see in France.  
  I'm not saying that's a correct assumption, merely that those on the right will argue that.

Ehh, this case had nothing to do with immigration (and I'm usually quite critical of these immigration-related things and crimes).

This guy was no different than the Columbine killers, a Breivik or some German who killed people in a school.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2016, 10:57:53 AM »
Quote from: rob in cal on July 23, 2016, 10:53:50 AM
  But Tender, those on the right could certainly argue, " if we had our way his parents never would have been allowed to immigrate here in the first place, so if we had always had a restrictive immigration policy like we want  this shooting never would have happened" .  I could certainly see that argument taking place.

Yeah ... no.

In this case 6 Mio. people would probably not have died in WW2, because Hitler would have been stopped at the German border and not allowed in.
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
Austria


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2016, 10:58:39 AM »
Quote from: ₑͤvₑͤrgreen on July 23, 2016, 10:56:57 AM
buddy, if virulent xenophobes like tender and hifly are telling you to chill, you might be going a bit far

Roll Eyes
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Tender Branson
Mark Warner 08
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Posts: 58,156
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Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.84
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2016, 01:23:47 PM »
Quote from: ag on July 23, 2016, 12:00:24 PM
Quote from: Tender Branson on July 23, 2016, 10:58:39 AM
Quote from: ₑͤvₑͤrgreen on July 23, 2016, 10:56:57 AM
buddy, if virulent xenophobes like tender and hifly are telling you to chill, you might be going a bit far

Roll Eyes

You object to the characterisation?

Of course, I'm not a xenophobe.

Quote from: Blue3 on July 23, 2016, 12:11:17 PM
This seems to be more like Germany's Columbine than anything else.

Not really. Germany's Columbine happened in 2002 and 2011:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erfurt_school_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnenden_school_shooting
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