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« on: July 23, 2016, 06:31:01 PM »

Rules and Procedures bill, as proposed by 1184AZ.

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This legislation shall be debated on for at least 48 hours, and any amendments to legislation shall result in debate being extended for at least an additional 24 hours. Votes on contested amendments to legislation shall last for 24 hours and votes on final bills shall last for 48.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 10:10:24 PM »

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 02:35:38 PM »

This is obviously something we need to pass ASAP.

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 07:03:40 PM »

This is obviously something we need to pass ASAP.

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.

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I agree. Since this is necessary, relating to rules and such, can I bring this up for a vote now. (That's not in the rules, but, on a technicality, since we haven't passed the rules yet, can we just do that this one time?)
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 07:05:23 PM »

This is obviously something we need to pass ASAP.

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.

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I agree. Since this is necessary, relating to rules and such, can I bring this up for a vote now. (That's not in the rules, but, on a technicality, since we haven't passed the rules yet, can we just do that this one time?)
As we don't have any rules then yes we can hold a vote on this.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 07:07:28 PM »

This is obviously something we need to pass ASAP.

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.

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I agree. Since this is necessary, relating to rules and such, can I bring this up for a vote now. (That's not in the rules, but, on a technicality, since we haven't passed the rules yet, can we just do that this one time?)
As we don't have any rules then yes we can hold a vote on this.
I think we should hold a vote on it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 07:21:23 PM »

This is obviously something we need to pass ASAP.

I don't necessarily have a problem with these rules. However, the naming conventions contradict our Constitution.

Tongue
I agree. Since this is necessary, relating to rules and such, can I bring this up for a vote now. (That's not in the rules, but, on a technicality, since we haven't passed the rules yet, can we just do that this one time?)
As we don't have any rules then yes we can hold a vote on this.
I think we should hold a vote on it.
Ok, I motion for a final vote on adoption of these rules.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2016, 08:42:29 PM »

Rules and Procedures bill, as proposed by 1184AZ.

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This legislation shall be debated on for at least 48 hours, and any amendments to legislation shall result in debate being extended for at least an additional 24 hours. Votes on contested amendments to legislation shall last for 24 hours and votes on final bills shall last for 48.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 08:47:38 PM »

I am not a huge fan of these rules, name issue aside. I do want to at least have the discussion of the legislature having full autonomy and the Governor not taking over as Speaker at any time. (I also think we should have a Lt. Governor, but this is not the place for that) we need to have a clear separation of executive and legislative branch. Under these rules, if I abstained or voted for myself in the Speaker's race, the Governor would have full control of all 4 slots of legislation.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 08:51:20 PM »

I am not a huge fan of these rules, name issue aside. I do want to at least have the discussion of the legislature having full autonomy and the Governor not taking over as Speaker at any time. (I also think we should have a Lt. Governor, but this is not the place for that) we need to have a clear separation of executive and legislative branch. Under these rules, if I abstained or voted for myself in the Speaker's race, the Governor would have full control of all 4 slots of legislation.
That is designed in part to ensure that if the speaker is inactive we can move debate along. This has been an issue in the past.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 09:15:45 PM »

I am not a huge fan of these rules, name issue aside. I do want to at least have the discussion of the legislature having full autonomy and the Governor not taking over as Speaker at any time. (I also think we should have a Lt. Governor, but this is not the place for that) we need to have a clear separation of executive and legislative branch. Under these rules, if I abstained or voted for myself in the Speaker's race, the Governor would have full control of all 4 slots of legislation.
That is designed in part to ensure that if the speaker is inactive we can move debate along. This has been an issue in the past.

I'd prefer if we just had the 'dean' of the Assembly take on that position, not the governor.  I'm also not a fan of standardized naming, but that's minor.
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 09:16:57 PM »

I am not a huge fan of these rules, name issue aside. I do want to at least have the discussion of the legislature having full autonomy and the Governor not taking over as Speaker at any time. (I also think we should have a Lt. Governor, but this is not the place for that) we need to have a clear separation of executive and legislative branch. Under these rules, if I abstained or voted for myself in the Speaker's race, the Governor would have full control of all 4 slots of legislation.
That is designed in part to ensure that if the speaker is inactive we can move debate along. This has been an issue in the past.

I'd prefer if we just had the 'dean' of the Assembly take on that position, not the governor.
Ok that would be a fair comprise, I will support that.
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 10:09:41 PM »

How would the 'dean' be determined? Most senior member (other than the speaker)? Meanwhile, is it okay for me to introduce the other proposed bills (before this is fully approved/voted on)?
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 10:29:30 PM »

How would the 'dean' be determined? Most senior member (other than the speaker)? Meanwhile, is it okay for me to introduce the other proposed bills (before this is fully approved/voted on)?
We could decide based on the order of who swore in first, anyways you can go ahead and introduce the other proposed bills.
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 10:18:16 AM »

I can support the most senior person who is not the Speaker being made interim Speaker.
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 08:18:29 PM »

Amendment:

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 11:07:00 PM »

Amendment:

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I will support the ammendment.
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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2016, 12:30:30 AM »

^I support it as well. Unless other amendments are proposed, the amended version of the bill goes up for a vote when 24 hours have passed since Pikachu proposed the amendment.
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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2016, 12:46:53 AM »

I withdraw my amendment and will support Pikachu's amendment.
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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2016, 12:56:44 AM »

I withdraw my amendment and will support Pikachu's amendment.
Okay, Pikachu's amendment it is. This is now going up for a final vote. Aye, nay, or abstain.

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« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2016, 09:13:29 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2016, 12:10:16 PM »

Aye
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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2016, 08:13:49 PM »

Aye

(I will be authoring an amendment to change some language in this bill)
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2016, 12:05:47 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2016, 09:39:27 AM »
« Edited: July 29, 2016, 12:12:57 PM by Heisenberg »

Voting is now closed, the amendment is unanimously passed by the assembly.
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