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« on: July 24, 2016, 09:25:34 AM »

Talking of the Wikileaks link. Apparently now Wikileaks = Russia in the minds of Democrat operatives.

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2016, 09:35:27 AM »

Its true.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2016, 09:35:55 AM »

TPM had a long article on Trump's ties to Putin.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2016, 09:41:16 AM »

But what are you saying, comrade? Путин является другом? Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2016, 09:41:21 AM »

A private security firm said the Russians were behind two separate DNC hacks back when it was first reported a month ago. Since then, Trump has hinted he won't defend NATO allies. Regardless of whether you think we should be pulling out of NATO or not, any time a major foreign power tries to influence a U.S. election it should be cause for concern. If every country around the world got a say in American government, it's no longer our government, it's more like a world government that we exclusively pay taxes to. That the true globalist boogeyman right there.
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2016, 09:42:23 AM »

Talking of the Wikileaks link. Apparently now Wikileaks = Russia in the minds of Democrat operatives.

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Wikileaks is effectively an arm of Russian intelligence, so they are absolutely correct
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2016, 03:04:40 PM »

Uh...he's correct.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2016, 03:08:28 PM »

I think this is a great line of attack to be honest, helps both to discredit the leaks and to build patriotic sympathy for the Clinton campaign.

right now this is mostly below the radar stuff, although I think Trump's campaign manager had to say something about this.
 
But could the message of how Trump is the favored candidate of Putin/The Kremlin be turned into 30sec TV ad without it looking like a kooky conspiracy theory?
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 03:09:16 PM »

The leak may have backfired. With DWS gone, Sanders got his one demand that most of thought was impossible. The democrats are going to be unified.
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 03:09:47 PM »

I think this is a great line of attack to be honest, helps both to discredit the leaks and to build patriotic sympathy for the Clinton campaign.

right now this is mostly below the radar stuff, although I think Trump's campaign manager had to say something about this.
 
But could the message of how Trump is the favored candidate of Putin/The Kremlin be turned into 30sec TV ad without it looking like a kooky conspiracy theory?

A morph ad interspersed with totalitarian imagery or that mural of Trump kissing Vlad
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2016, 03:10:48 PM »

Good to see Clinton following Trump's "evil foreigners are trying to hurt America" playbook. Sad!
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2016, 03:11:20 PM »

The leak may have backfired. With DWS gone, Sanders got his one demand that most of thought was impossible. The democrats are going to be unified.

Yup, even Ben Jealous came around
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2016, 03:11:25 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2016, 03:12:38 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.

Russia interfering in an American election is dangerous to democracy in this country
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2016, 03:13:12 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.

If it ends up with a commander in chief who owes Putin a favor, then yes. It's a liability to national security. I thought Republicans cared about that?
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2016, 03:16:00 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2016, 03:24:26 PM by Likely Voter »

well this one leak thing alone isn't enough to hurt Trump. But if it can be shown that it is all part of a pattern of Trump policies and positions favored by Putin (the platform, anti-NATO/EU stuff) along with Russian intelligence hacking/leaking and trying to disrupt the US election in favor of Trump it could paint an unflattering picture of the "America First" candidate.  
  
But as I said, it will be hard to put it all together in a simple way that doesn't look like Carrie Mathison off her meds and raving in front of a wall full of strings linking various press clippings
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2016, 03:29:05 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.

Russia interfering in an American election is dangerous to democracy in this country

No, the DNC conspiring against a legitimate presidential candidate, that is what poses a danger to democracy in this country, not anything Russia does after the fact.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2016, 03:32:39 PM »

The leak may have backfired. With DWS gone, Sanders got his one demand that most of thought was impossible. The democrats are going to be unified.

In your dreams.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2016, 03:33:57 PM »


But not politically correct. Wink
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« Reply #19 on: July 24, 2016, 03:37:05 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.

Russia interfering in an American election is dangerous to democracy in this country

No, the DNC conspiring against a legitimate presidential candidate, that is what poses a danger to democracy in this country, not anything Russia does after the fact.

Of course Russia interfering in American elections is dangerous !
What are you bird-brains thinking.
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« Reply #20 on: July 24, 2016, 03:37:40 PM »

Does it matter if Russia is helping Trump?
The leaks are true. DNC conspired against Bernie. Russia releasing this doesn't make this fact untrue.

Russia interfering in an American election is dangerous to democracy in this country

No, the DNC conspiring against a legitimate presidential candidate, that is what poses a danger to democracy in this country, not anything Russia does after the fact.

Of course Russia interfering in American elections is dangerous !
What are you bird-brains thinking.

They don't have 2 functional brain cells to rub together. They have been brainwashed by Trump
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2016, 03:38:37 PM »

The Russians didn't write the emails. Nobody cares who released them.
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2016, 03:40:29 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2016, 03:43:58 PM by LittleBigPlanet »

The Russians didn't write the emails. Nobody cares who released them.
Actually, we don't even know, if it were Russians...
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2016, 03:56:53 PM »

This is what Putin does, he tries to get leaders he can control into power. Look at Belarus, Lukashenko is controlled by Putin. All Putin would have to get Trump on board was let Trump's companies flood Russia's market with products and perhaps even control industries. Pay to play.
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2016, 04:08:12 PM »

This is what Putin does, he tries to get leaders he can control into power. Look at Belarus, Lukashenko is controlled by Putin. All Putin would have to get Trump on board was let Trump's companies flood Russia's market with products and perhaps even control industries. Pay to play.
Don't you overestimate Putins power? /:
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