Clinton's campaign manager: Russia helping Trump

[egalitt]

Atlas logic: it is completely rational to think that wiki leaks releasing DNC emails about plots to screw over Bernie Sanders means Trump is in Putins pocket. But it's a crazy conspiracy to have any problem with the Clinton foundation receiving money from middle eastern governments.

Putin supports Trump, King of Saudi Arabia and Sultan of Brunei support Clinton, Cuba and Mexico support Cruz,  Israel supports Sanders,   ect.
Is there any official statement that the emails were hacked by Russian? No. Conjecture made out of thin air.  

[egalitt]

All references are to articles written by Clinton backers. If Trump were connected to Putin FBI would have started an investigation. No such investigation has been conducted.
Suppose the allegations about Trump's ties with Russia are correct. It means that American law enforcement agencies are helpless and incompetent, and Obama is a complete nonentity who has ruined the country to allow  a Russian  agent becoming one of the main presidential candidates.

[egalitt]

All references are to articles written by Clinton backers. If Trump were connected to Putin FBI would have started an investigation. No such investigation has been conducted.
Suppose the allegations about Trump's ties with Russia are correct. It means that American law enforcement agencies are helpless and incompetent, and Obama is a complete nonentity who has ruined the country to allow  a Russian  agent becoming one of the main presidential candidates.

Вполне возможно что Путин помогает Трампу от рассчитывание что Америка будет слабее под Трампом, а не потому-что Трамп агент России. То что Кайзер послал Ленина в Россию не означало что Ленин был немецким агентом.

And how does he help him, I wonder? Wires money to his bank account?

This is by the way an interesting issue. If you say that Putin supports Trump what specific methods does he use to realize his support?  Can you name them?

[egalitt]

Atlas logic: it is completely rational to think that wiki leaks releasing DNC emails about plots to screw over Bernie Sanders means Trump is in Putins pocket. But it's a crazy conspiracy to have any problem with the Clinton foundation receiving money from middle eastern governments.

Putin supports Trump, King of Saudi Arabia and Sultan of Brunei support Clinton, Cuba and Mexico support Cruz,  Israel supports Sanders,   ect.
Is there any official statement that the emails were hacked by Russian? No. Conjecture made out of thin air.  

Actually, yes.  And that was being mentioned well before they got released to Wikileaks.  Of course, the Russians denied it, just like they denied ever engaging in state-sponsored doping of their Olympic athletes.

In what way are olimpic games connected with usa presidential election? В огороде бузина,  а в киеве дядька.
If you say "yes" you should take to court FBI director  and Obama.
 

[egalitt]

Atlas logic: it is completely rational to think that wiki leaks releasing DNC emails about plots to screw over Bernie Sanders means Trump is in Putins pocket. But it's a crazy conspiracy to have any problem with the Clinton foundation receiving money from middle eastern governments.

Putin supports Trump, King of Saudi Arabia and Sultan of Brunei support Clinton, Cuba and Mexico support Cruz,  Israel supports Sanders,   ect.
Is there any official statement that the emails were hacked by Russian? No. Conjecture made out of thin air.  

Actually, yes.  And that was being mentioned well before they got released to Wikileaks.  Of course, the Russians denied it, just like they denied ever engaging in state-sponsored doping of their Olympic athletes.

In what way are olimpic games connected with usa presidential election? В огороде бузина,  а в киеве дядька.
If you say "yes" you should take to court FBI director  and Obama.
 

I was using it as an example of how Russian denials aren't even worth the paper they are printed on these days.  It is strange what you said in Russian as Russian denials of sending troops to fight for the separatists in eastern Ukraine are as hollow and false

I said nothing of the sort.

[egalitt]

I'll take the liberty to remind you what FBI director said: "She also used her personal e-mail extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related e-mails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries".
He he didn't  specify names of "sophisticated adversaries"  but it's clear that Russia  was meant.
Now you insist here that dnc emails were hacked by Russians,  and that they are very qualified. Consequently you must admit that Clinton' s emails were also hacked and you candidate committed a crime and must be indicted.

[egalitt]

So, gentlemen, you have two options.
1. You admit that dnc server was hacked by Russians.  Consequently you must  admit that
1.1. Clinton emails were also hacked when she visited Russia. Clinton is a criminal, a traitor to be indicted and jailed.
1.2 . Your President is a nonentity who permitted Russian agent Trump  to run for president and win the looming election.
1.3. Your FBI director is as incompetent as a rail (this simile is my patented invention)  and must be ousted asap.
2. You reject the idea of Russians hacking dnc email as stupid and improbable. In this case you can safely continue supporting Clinton, crooked as a dog's hind leg (this figure of speech is not mine, feel free to use it)

[egalitt]

So, gentlemen, you have two options.
1. You admit that dnc server was hacked by Russians.  Consequently you must  admit that
1.1. Clinton emails were also hacked when she visited Russia. Clinton is a criminal, a traitor to be indicted and jailed.
1.2 . Your President is a nonentity who permitted Russian agent Trump  to run for president and win the looming election.
1.3. Your FBI director is as incompetent as a rail (this simile is my patented invention)  and must be ousted asap.
2. You reject the idea of Russians hacking dnc email as stupid and improbable. In this case you can safely continue supporting Clinton, crooked as a dog's hind leg (this figure of speech is not mine, feel free to use it)

How does 1.1 follow 1? How does 1.2 follow 1.1 and 1?

You're so quick to point out the "corruption" in the decadent USA, yet you wouldn't know corruption if it slapped you in the face.

1. I didn't say a word about corruption.
2. If you have no logical thinking it's not my fault. I wasn't you teacher at high school.

[egalitt]

Putin- Trump exchanged positive words about each other.
Trump has financial ties to Russia.
Paul Manafort has ties to pro-Russian politicians.
Trump flirting w ideas of not supporting eastern European NATO allies.
RNC eliminated references to arming Ukraine in its fight with Russia from the platform.
DNC leaks day before the convention and has Russian fingerprints all over it.

This doesn't prove anything concretely but optics are bad.

Your reasoning has one fault: it is too primitive and straightforward.
Suppose Putin planned to make his candidate US President. Would he be so primitive and straightforward as to praise his agent? Not at all! He is cunning enough to praise some other candidate to divert public attention from his agent. Hence Trump is a dummy used to divert attention from Putin's agent who actually is Clinton.  He knows her very well, he worked with her for many years, there are close ties between them.
Any objections?  

[egalitt]

Putin- Trump exchanged positive words about each other.
Trump has financial ties to Russia.
Paul Manafort has ties to pro-Russian politicians.
Trump flirting w ideas of not supporting eastern European NATO allies.
RNC eliminated references to arming Ukraine in its fight with Russia from the platform.
DNC leaks day before the convention and has Russian fingerprints all over it.

This doesn't prove anything concretely but optics are bad.

Your reasoning has one fault: it is too primitive and straightforward.
Suppose Putin planned to make his candidate US President. Would he be so primitive and straightforward as to praise his agent? Not at all! He is cunning enough to praise some other candidate to divert public attention from his agent. Hence trum is a dummy used to divert attention from Putin's agent who actually is Clinton.  He knows her very well, he worked with her for many years, there are close ties between them.
Any objections?  

At the same time, you overestimate the mental capacity of your dictator.  He is powerful, and has very smart people around him, but he is not the brightest.

I'd be much obliged if you  gave me a single name of a "smart person" among Putin's  associates. Very smart people,  such as me, all live in provinces and have (fortunately) nothing to do with Putin's administration.
I'd like to draw your attention to the fact that Putin will win at any rate. If Clinton is elected, well, she is his secret agent. If Trump wins, well,  they will be on good terms.