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« Reply #75 on: July 24, 2016, 03:59:03 PM »

Huge FF Donna Brazile will be interim DNC chair.

https://t.co/AFKgIStTGS

A far better campaigner than DWS. We take the hit now but things improve in the long run
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« Reply #76 on: July 24, 2016, 04:01:16 PM »

Just a couple days ago all the red avatars we're btching and moaning about how WikiLeaks should be charged as "disgusting criminals" for releasing the DNC emails.. the same ones that exposed the corruption that is leading to her stepping down that they are all now praising.

Clowns, lol.

Both of those points can be true.

Yes, you can acknowledge that DWS has chronically mis-managed the DNC and still think the leaks were bad.
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« Reply #77 on: July 24, 2016, 04:11:12 PM »
« Edited: July 24, 2016, 04:16:07 PM by Seriously? »

Better to rip the band-aid off today and not have it drag out like the Melania speech. At least Bernie can say he exerted strong influence on the DNC outside of the platform additions. I'd imagine Bernie fans would celebrate her removal today more than anything else
Spot on analysis from a political standpoint. It does appear as though that's she's gone, but the change won't happen until after the convention. But it gives the appearance that the DNC gives a s**t for all the scumbaggery that was sent Bernie's way.

(Not to say that if it was the RNC's e-mail server that was hacked, there wouldn't be scumbaggery. That scumbaggery would have been directed at Trump. He someone defeated them all.)
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« Reply #78 on: July 24, 2016, 04:20:16 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?
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« Reply #79 on: July 24, 2016, 04:23:54 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?
Well considering Al Gore won the 2000 Presidential election, the DNC is in good hands!
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« Reply #80 on: July 24, 2016, 04:24:16 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?

That's still better than DWS
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« Reply #81 on: July 24, 2016, 04:32:04 PM »

She should definitely resign, and might as well even considering she isn't even speaking at the DNC anymore. She's nothing more than a symbolic figurehead that is absolutely toxic to large amounts of voters. However, this also presents another counter-argument: If she is basically a useless figurehead, why is it so important she step down now? What is the big deal? She is going to be gone soon enough regardless and has little substantial input at this point.


Clinton had to be ritually cleansed by driving the metaphorical bus over DWS, before she could truly become the nominee of the Democratic Party. It's important that the sacrifice of the prepared goat to propitiate the twin gods or pretend populism and pretend accountability take place at the appropriate point in coronation ceremony. Otherwise the assembled serfs might lose faith in their new monarch.

(And don't lose any sleep over DWS. She's on track for a nice, fat sinecure in the Clinton administration. Unless she dies in a plane crash, first.)

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« Reply #82 on: July 24, 2016, 04:35:00 PM »

Perhaps Hillary leaked those emails on purpose.
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« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2016, 04:40:34 PM »

I think this describes the moment:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=xvX_5ym_ajI
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« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2016, 05:00:00 PM »

Five days too late
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« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2016, 05:35:20 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?

If DWS had run Al Gore's campaign, Bush would have won in a landslide.
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« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2016, 05:41:43 PM »

What is the big deal? She is going to be gone soon enough regardless and has little substantial input at this point.

Symbolic victory for the Sanders loyalists, makes them feel like they won the battle even though they lost the war. From their perspective, DWS was the right hand woman of the Big Bad Clinton Wolf. It's a laughably incorrect perception, but one they possess nonetheless. Since DWS was likely resigning after this campaign season anyway, it was better to can her than insist she stay on and go into the Philadelphia convention with divisions still proliferating the party.

Anyway, she was a pretty awful chair from what I hear, so good riddance, I guess.
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« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2016, 06:00:16 PM »


Don't even joke about that.
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« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2016, 06:01:42 PM »

Huge FF Donna Brazile will be interim DNC chair.

https://t.co/AFKgIStTGS

A far better campaigner than DWS. We take the hit now but things improve in the long run

Yasss!
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« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2016, 06:06:00 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?

Great choice, considering Gore went from trailing by double digits to winning the popular vote.
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« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2016, 06:08:48 PM »

For what its worth someone like Warren is never going to become DNC chair- she doesn't seem at all like the type. Academic, liberal+wonky Senators don't tend to suit a job that seems to require lots of fundraising, and a laser focus on the party.

Castro, for all his faults seems like a good pick.
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« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2016, 06:18:23 PM »

bye DWS, thanks for helping the GOP for the past few years! Cheesy
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« Reply #92 on: July 24, 2016, 07:53:45 PM »

If they pick Castro to raise the money and shake the hands and look pretty, hopefully they hire an extremely smart, strategic person with integrity to be his lieutenant and do all of his thinking for him.
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« Reply #93 on: July 24, 2016, 08:34:27 PM »

If they pick Castro to raise the money and shake the hands and look pretty, hopefully they hire an extremely smart, strategic person with integrity to be his lieutenant and do all of his thinking for him.

What evidence is there that Castro is dumb?
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« Reply #94 on: July 24, 2016, 08:54:44 PM »

If they pick Castro to raise the money and shake the hands and look pretty, hopefully they hire an extremely smart, strategic person with integrity to be his lieutenant and do all of his thinking for him.

What evidence is there that Castro is dumb?

1) There's no evidence that he is smart (strategically speaking - in terms of IQ, he's Ivy-educated, so he's at least somewhat above average generally speaking).  The vast majority of DNC chairs have been colossal strategic morons, exceptions like Dean aside, who sacrifice the long-term goal of building the party starting from the ground up in state parties rather than pursuing narrow short-term national relief from campaign contributors.

2) I don't trust him.  He seems like the type to not have a good ideological vision/cohesive message for the party nationally, and more likely to pursue the same kind of nebulous bullsh**t the democratic party usually relies on whilst sucking up to campaign contributors and doing their bidding.

The DNC chair only matters so much when there is a sitting President, TBF, so if Madame Hillary wins Castro will be her puppet.  She's possibly better on dimension #1, pretty bad on dimension #2.
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« Reply #95 on: July 24, 2016, 08:55:26 PM »

Too bad.  She was one of my favorite Democrats. 
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« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2016, 09:00:32 PM »

Anyway, I'm glad Republicans can stop gloating about this email leak thing.
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« Reply #97 on: July 26, 2016, 01:48:02 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?
Well considering Al Gore won the 2000 Presidential election, the DNC is in good hands!
Actually, based on the information and data that I have seen, I don't think that one can state with certainty that Al Gore won in 2000. Indeed, while this is very possible and perhaps even probable, I think that making definitive-sounding statements such as this is a bad move.
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« Reply #98 on: July 26, 2016, 01:49:04 PM »

So we go from DWS to Al Gore's campaign manager?

Great choice, considering Gore went from trailing by double digits to winning the popular vote.
Except winning the popular vote is irrelevant and both Al Gore and his campaign staff almost certainly knew this ahead of time.
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« Reply #99 on: July 26, 2016, 03:30:27 PM »

Dean should've been made interim-DNC chair. He endorsed Hillary but is from Sanders' home state and has impeccable progressive bonafides and a sterling record, so he would've been a fantastic compromise. Donna Brazile is cool too I guess.
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