What if Super Tuesday had been bad for Trump?
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« on: July 25, 2016, 12:05:17 AM »

Let's say Trump had only won the states seen as safe for him: AL, TN, GA, MA. Rubio wins VA/MN, Cruz wins TX/OK/AR/AK, and Kasich wins VT.

How would this have changed the subsequent contests? Is Trump still the eventual nominee?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 12:42:42 AM »



Donald Trump (R-NY) - 36 states
Ted Cruz (R-TX) - 18 states
Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 4 states + D.C.
John Kasich (R-OH) - 2 states

Cruz would have probably stayed in longer and won a few more states. Rubio would have won his home state along with Hawaii.
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 07:00:46 PM »


Cruz would have probably stayed in longer and won a few more states. Rubio would have won his home state along with Hawaii.

Don't understand why this narrative of VA = FL exists, let alone HI?
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 07:34:55 PM »

He then drops out on 3/15.  Kasich stays in for the NE states, but finds himself even more of a 3rd wheel than IRL.

People in the NE already knew about Kasich's chances, they voted for him anyway over Cruz, because they could not vote for the latter out of principle, resulting in the same momentum. Unlike WI voters who were willing to swallow their grievances and vote for Cruz anyway, the NE could not.
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 10:17:48 PM »

He then drops out on 3/15.  Kasich stays in for the NE states, but finds himself even more of a 3rd wheel than IRL.

People in the NE already knew about Kasich's chances, they voted for him anyway over Cruz, because they could not vote for the latter out of principle, resulting in the same momentum. Unlike WI voters who were willing to swallow their grievances and vote for Cruz anyway, the NE could not.
Wisconsin Republicans are also far more conservative than New England ones.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 08:13:28 PM »

I'm thinking it goes to a contested convention and Trump has the plurality.  First of all, Cruz would clearly cross the 50% WTA threshold in Texas with a weaker Trump.  Cruz sweeps on 3/5.  Then Trump rebounds into the Midwest.  A stronger Rubio still fails to win anything on 3/8, but Cruz is able to WTA Idaho with >50%.  A stronger Rubio actually costs Kasich Ohio while coming within 5% of Trump in Florida but still losing.  He then drops out on 3/15.  Kasich stays in for the NE states, but finds himself even more of a 3rd wheel than IRL. Still, Cruz does well enough in IN to stay in through 6/7 and prevent Trump from clinching prior to the RNC. 



The outcome is a Cruz/Trump ticket.

In this scenario I see Cruz winning Indiana and also propels Stutzman over Young.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2016, 04:24:59 PM »

I'm thinking it goes to a contested convention and Trump has the plurality.  First of all, Cruz would clearly cross the 50% WTA threshold in Texas with a weaker Trump.  Cruz sweeps on 3/5.  Then Trump rebounds into the Midwest.  A stronger Rubio still fails to win anything on 3/8, but Cruz is able to WTA Idaho with >50%.  A stronger Rubio actually costs Kasich Ohio while coming within 5% of Trump in Florida but still losing.  He then drops out on 3/15.  Kasich stays in for the NE states, but finds himself even more of a 3rd wheel than IRL. Still, Cruz does well enough in IN to stay in through 6/7 and prevent Trump from clinching prior to the RNC. 



The outcome is a Cruz/Trump ticket.

In this scenario I see Cruz winning Indiana and also propels Stutzman over Young.
Stutzman lost by a thirty point margin. Good luck with that.
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