Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread**

[HagridOfTheDeep]

This music is pitiful.

Could you be any more of imbecilic teenaged boy?

Dude, the RNC music was bad too. They should've played Sinatra's New York New York during the balloon drop. Instead they played a Stones song that had no connection at all.

Calm down dude. How are you gonna handle your future students?

I already have students who I've trained to be much more respectful than you, thanks.

[DrScholl]

This music is pitiful.

Could you be any more of imbecilic teenaged boy?

After finding out that he smokes and drinks, we should just pity him and ignore his antics.

[Devout Centrist]

Haven't seen much on this thread, other than the usual Hillary hacks freaking out blaming everything on Bernie, and the Republican hacks rubbing their hands.

What is neglected is the fundamentals that the Democratic Party is deeply divided regarding foreign and economic policy, over decades of poor decisions going back to the early 1990s and the time of the DLC.

We saw NAFTA rammed down our throat supported by a Democratic President, where the vast majority our Senators and Reps voted against.

Personally, I saw (500) jobs disappear virtually overnight in a (9,000 employee) manufacturing facility of a Fortune 500 company where I worked, where the starting pay was $11.50-13.50/Hour (DOE) back in the mid '90s, including two friends that worked on those lines. Subsequently, the same company shut down virtually all manufacturing lines and relocated them to Ireland, Puerto Rico, and Singapore, and several thousand more high paying manufacturing jobs (Including management, engineers, sales and marketing, etc...) in order to take advantage of corporate tax loopholes.

These stories exist across America, and yes the Democratic Party at senior levels was responsible for that trade agreement.

Is it any wonder that Donald Trump has made this a major issue, when it appears for many Democratic voters that the Party is so much in favor of "Free Trade" without providing "Fair Trade" that actually provides the labor and environmental protections, job retraining and education policies that were promised when the Democratic Party DLC (Now thankfully retired) chose to go that route???

I know many posters on this forum, including a huge number of red avatars, don't actually remember what happened because they are too young, nor saw friends, family, and even communities impacted by the destruction caused by a Neo-Corporatist vision as part of a giant "race to the bottom" based upon a Globalist vision that appears to care more about Wall Street investors where everything is Profit/Loss and not about investing in America Inc....

Don't blame Bernie for actually speaking the truth when it comes to the collusion of *both* political parties in the selling out of America to the highest bidder.

No, I contest the idea that anecdotes should be taken as facts, especially on free trade.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

So much for the Dems being competitive in Arizona this year.

[Likely Voter]

After Sanchez it looks like about an hour or so of all unions all the time...

 
Lee Saunders, AFSCME
Lily Eskelsen Garcia, National Education Association
Mary Kay Henry, SEIU
Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO
Sean McGarvey, Building and Construction Trades
Randi Weingarten, American Federation of Teachers

[Bojack Horseman]

They got Michelle Lujan Grisham's district wrong. She's NM-1, not in California!

[SATW]

This music is pitiful.

Could you be any more of imbecilic teenaged boy?

Dude, the RNC music was bad too. They should've played Sinatra's New York New York during the balloon drop. Instead they played a Stones song that had no connection at all.

Calm down dude. How are you gonna handle your future students?

I already have students who I've trained to be much more respectful than you, thanks.

Are you owed some level of respect from ChairmanSanchez that none of us have been informed about?

[DrScholl]

Michelle Lujan Grisham's district number was listed as CA-51. She's from New Mexico. Not a huge deal, but someone was not proofing that video well.

[Suburbia]

Haven't seen much on this thread, other than the usual Hillary hacks freaking out blaming everything on Bernie, and the Republican hacks rubbing their hands.

What is neglected is the fundamentals that the Democratic Party is deeply divided regarding foreign and economic policy, over decades of poor decisions going back to the early 1990s and the time of the DLC.

We saw NAFTA rammed down our throat supported by a Democratic President, where the vast majority our Senators and Reps voted against.

Personally, I saw (500) jobs disappear virtually overnight in a (9,000 employee) manufacturing facility of a Fortune 500 company where I worked, where the starting pay was $11.50-13.50/Hour (DOE) back in the mid '90s, including two friends that worked on those lines. Subsequently, the same company shut down virtually all manufacturing lines and relocated them to Ireland, Puerto Rico, and Singapore, and several thousand more high paying manufacturing jobs (Including management, engineers, sales and marketing, etc...) in order to take advantage of corporate tax loopholes.

These stories exist across America, and yes the Democratic Party at senior levels was responsible for that trade agreement.

Is it any wonder that Donald Trump has made this a major issue, when it appears for many Democratic voters that the Party is so much in favor of "Free Trade" without providing "Fair Trade" that actually provides the labor and environmental protections, job retraining and education policies that were promised when the Democratic Party DLC (Now thankfully retired) chose to go that route???

I know many posters on this forum, including a huge number of red avatars, don't actually remember what happened because they are too young, nor saw friends, family, and even communities impacted by the destruction caused by a Neo-Corporatist vision as part of a giant "race to the bottom" based upon a Globalist vision that appears to care more about Wall Street investors where everything is Profit/Loss and not about investing in America Inc....

Don't blame Bernie for actually speaking the truth when it comes to the collusion of *both* political parties in the selling out of America to the highest bidder.

I'm an Independent. I agree with you on some of your things. I do believe that NAFTA has cost jobs and I am not for the TPP. However, taxing Wall Street to eternity will cost jobs. You can't destroy Wall Street and expect economic prosperity.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Rep Sanchez: "Trump is bad, he is a meanie, and I don't like him."

[Devout Centrist]

Rep Sanchez: "Trump is bad, he is a meanie, and I don't like him."

Replace Trump with minorities and you just summed up Trump's campaign in a sentence. Well done.

[DrScholl]

Rep Sanchez: "Trump is bad, he is a meanie, and I don't like him."

That's not what she said. At least she's not shouting "Lock him up" or calling for him to be put before a firing squad.

[Pyro]

morty worlsh up now

[Gass3268]

This guy is so Boston.

[Eraserhead]

Nate Silver is saying that only about 2-5% of the entire arena is booing.

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More fuzzy math from Mr. Silver. It's certainly not a majority or anything but I'd be surprised if it's not quite a bit more than that.

[Gass3268]

This isn't good:

[HAnnA MArin County]

These Bernie bohemians are so annoying.

[Gass3268]

Lee Saunders is kicking butt.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

This music is pitiful.

Could you be any more of imbecilic teenaged boy?

Dude, the RNC music was bad too. They should've played Sinatra's New York New York during the balloon drop. Instead they played a Stones song that had no connection at all.

Calm down dude. How are you gonna handle your future students?

I already have students who I've trained to be much more respectful than you, thanks.

I don't owe a random Canadian guy from an internet forum who is like two years older than me any "respect" nor have I actually disrespected you personally in any way, so I'm quite confused.

[Averroës Nix]

That was great. The union crew seems much better at projecting enthusiasm than anyone else who has been on stage since Ben Jealous.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

DNC plagiarism. Melania and Michelle, Trumpka and Bentson lol.

[ag]

We saw NAFTA rammed down our throat.... Subsequently, the same company shut down virtually all manufacturing lines and relocated them to Ireland, Puerto Rico, and Singapore,

NAFTA, in case you are unaware of it, is an agreement involving US, Canada and Mexico - neither Ireland, nor Singapore have anything to do with it.  Admittedly, Puerto Rico does: as part of the US. So, unless your premise is somehow that the company moved manufacturing to Puerto Rico because it is easier to sell from there to Canada and Mexico, I really have hard time seeing what is it that you are claiming.

The fact is that NAFTA or no NAFTA, much of manufacturing would have left the US. That would have been the case even in the absence of ANY free trade agreements - in that case much more of US manufacturing would have, probably, gone to China (in fact, there are many reasons to believe that even much of what stayed in the US would have gone to China - but that is a separate matter). Of course, US could have avoide this by actually increasing protectionist barriers as compared to what they have been previously. That would have had an admirable effect of a substantially smaller US economy - the opposite of prosperity in which all of Americans would have shared.

I mean, for god´s sake. You have been borrowing like crazy for decades, with hardly a trace of either inflationary pressures or interest rate increases. Without trade this would have been impossible. Remember that 2008 recession? All those dreams of higher "tradeless" wages: the moment those wages would have started appearing, Fed would have had to jack up interest rates to make sure they (and employment) go down. And it would have been doing it repeatedly, always, as a matter of policy. A recession like the one in 2008 would have seen no monetary or fiscal expansion as a policy response - either would have been impossible. Want to make sure that your grandchildren dream of your era´s living standards (and curse you for taking them forever out of their reach)? Block trade.

[dspNY]

Trumka is going to be a very important piece of this general election in the Rust Belt

[White Trash]

High energy speaker after high energy speaker. Walsh and now the union men. No better reason to be hyped.

[Fusionmunster]

It was rough in the beginning but its gotten a lot better.