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« Reply #975 on: July 25, 2016, 10:28:29 PM »

Did this lady get lost on the way to the RNC? Ah-main? LOL
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« Reply #976 on: July 25, 2016, 10:28:58 PM »

Anti-TPP, anti-big-pharma, single payer healthcare. Will Hillary live up to any of this? I don't theenk so.
Without huge majorities, of course not.

Thank god she'll still support TPP.

Why? Do you love corporatism and hate small business? Even without the scandals around Hillary; this is why I never could vote for her.
You're a libertarian opposed to free trade? Huh?

Also, lol at free trade being corporatism.
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« Reply #977 on: July 25, 2016, 10:29:12 PM »

Anti-TPP, anti-big-pharma, single payer healthcare. Will Hillary live up to any of this? I don't theenk so.
Without huge majorities, of course not.

Thank god she'll still support TPP.

You keep saying that, but there's no way she will that blatantly flip her position, especially in her first term.
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« Reply #978 on: July 25, 2016, 10:29:34 PM »

I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

You can't pick and choose like that, economics isn't al a carte. If you pay tax dollars that are in turn used for services, that is socialism. When everyone pays a share, then it's socialism.

That is a definition you yourself invented. In the same spirit of individual definitional innovation I suggest another defintion: urinating is socialism. If you ever urinated in your life, you are a socialist.  You cannot pick and choose here: this is not a la carte.

BTW, what is a carte?

That definition has become more and more prevalent in the vocabulary of the general population in recent years. He didn't invent it, even if it is wrong.
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« Reply #979 on: July 25, 2016, 10:29:35 PM »

Yes, stop the TPP!!! That's the main issue I wish the Clinton wing of the party would concede on.

Clinton herself did, and Democratic Congressmen oppose it with huge majorities, so who really cares?

And, in any case, it will be ratified in December Smiley

Yes, thankfully.  Kudos to Congressional Republicans. Smiley

And Presdient Obama Smiley
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« Reply #980 on: July 25, 2016, 10:29:45 PM »

lmao, she lost the gavel
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« Reply #981 on: July 25, 2016, 10:30:13 PM »

I hate it too, despite the fact Democrats support free trade, the unions have hijacked the issue.

Democrats DON'T support free trade, quite obviously.
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« Reply #982 on: July 25, 2016, 10:30:50 PM »

If Hillary reneges on TPP, whether it's forced down our throats in the lame duck session or not, then her supporters really won't have an argument to keep Bernie supporters with her next election.  She's not doing it.
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« Reply #983 on: July 25, 2016, 10:30:59 PM »

A California Sanders delegate is still unmoved by Sanders' speech. She says she will vote for Green Party Jill Stein.
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« Reply #984 on: July 25, 2016, 10:31:24 PM »

There has never been a communist country either, it's still mostly a utopia at this point.(sorry Marx)
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« Reply #985 on: July 25, 2016, 10:31:40 PM »

I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

You can't pick and choose like that, economics isn't al a carte. If you pay tax dollars that are in turn used for services, that is socialism. When everyone pays a share, then it's socialism.

That is a definition you yourself invented. In the same spirit of individual definitional innovation I suggest another defintion: urinating is socialism. If you ever urinated in your life, you are a socialist.  You cannot pick and choose here: this is not a la carte.

BTW, what is a carte?

That definition has become more and more prevalent in the vocabulary of the general population in recent years. He didn't invent it, even if it is wrong.

It excludes no form of government empirically known to mankind. Hence, it is meaningless. In fact, it is observationally equivalent to my "urinating" definition.

And, I am still waiting for the clarification on "a carte".
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« Reply #986 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:13 PM »

I hate it too, despite the fact Democrats support free trade, the unions have hijacked the issue.

Democrats DON'T support free trade, quite obviously.

Well, I do.
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« Reply #987 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:16 PM »

If Hillary reneges on TPP, whether it's forced down our throats in the lame duck session or not, then her supporters really won't have an argument to keep Bernie supporters with her next election.  She's not doing it.

She will not have to. Obama will do everything Smiley
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« Reply #988 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:21 PM »

Protectionism can be dangerous.
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« Reply #989 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:27 PM »

A California Sanders delegate is still unmoved by Sanders' speech. She says she will vote for Green Party Jill Stein.

There are going to be a few, but most will not.
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« Reply #990 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:49 PM »

If Hillary reneges on TPP, whether it's forced down our throats in the lame duck session or not, then her supporters really won't have an argument to keep Bernie supporters with her next election.  She's not doing it.

She will not have to. Obama will do everything Smiley

Not in the rollout. Smiley
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« Reply #991 on: July 25, 2016, 10:32:58 PM »

I hate it too, despite the fact Democrats support free trade, the unions have hijacked the issue.

Democrats DON'T support free trade, quite obviously.
https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/03/17/only-democrats-tend-support-free-trade/
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« Reply #992 on: July 25, 2016, 10:33:24 PM »

I hate it too, despite the fact Democrats support free trade, the unions have hijacked the issue.


Democrats DON'T support free trade, quite obviously.
Actually, polls show that a majority of Democrats still support free Trade, and a majority of Republicans support fair Trade still.
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« Reply #993 on: July 25, 2016, 10:33:47 PM »

I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

You can't pick and choose like that, economics isn't al a carte. If you pay tax dollars that are in turn used for services, that is socialism. When everyone pays a share, then it's socialism.

That is a definition you yourself invented. In the same spirit of individual definitional innovation I suggest another defintion: urinating is socialism. If you ever urinated in your life, you are a socialist.  You cannot pick and choose here: this is not a la carte.

BTW, what is a carte?


a carte = menu. From the menu.

Anyway, yes you can. You can socialize healthcare but not all business. Socialize education but not all schools. 
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« Reply #994 on: July 25, 2016, 10:33:53 PM »

If Hillary reneges on TPP, whether it's forced down our throats in the lame duck session or not, then her supporters really won't have an argument to keep Bernie supporters with her next election.  She's not doing it.

She will not have to. Obama will do everything Smiley

Not in the rollout. Smiley

Once it is the law, it is the law Smiley You know, Tim Kaine has always been against the death penalty....

And, trust me, no actual American would ever directly observe the rollout Smiley
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« Reply #995 on: July 25, 2016, 10:34:12 PM »

A California Sanders delegate is still unmoved by Sanders' speech. She says she will vote for Green Party Jill Stein.

FF
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« Reply #996 on: July 25, 2016, 10:34:16 PM »

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« Reply #997 on: July 25, 2016, 10:34:59 PM »

I hate it too, despite the fact Democrats support free trade, the unions have hijacked the issue.


Democrats DON'T support free trade, quite obviously.
Actually, polls show that a majority of Democrats still support free Trade, and a majority of Republicans support fair Trade still.
"Fair" Trade.
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« Reply #998 on: July 25, 2016, 10:35:00 PM »

If Hillary reneges on TPP, whether it's forced down our throats in the lame duck session or not, then her supporters really won't have an argument to keep Bernie supporters with her next election.  She's not doing it.

She will not have to. Obama will do everything Smiley

Not in the rollout. Smiley

Once it is the law, it is the law Smiley You know, Tim Kaine has always been against the death penalty....

And, trust me, no actual American would ever directly observe the rollout Smiley

So maybe I'll be voting for Trump in November anyway.
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« Reply #999 on: July 25, 2016, 10:35:29 PM »

I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER BERNIE! SOCIALISM IS NOT THE ANSWER

Okay, I guess you're against the fire department, the police, national parks, public libraries, etc.

That isn't typically considered to fall under the umbrella of Socialism. Free education and health care does.

You can't pick and choose like that, economics isn't al a carte. If you pay tax dollars that are in turn used for services, that is socialism. When everyone pays a share, then it's socialism.

That is a definition you yourself invented. In the same spirit of individual definitional innovation I suggest another defintion: urinating is socialism. If you ever urinated in your life, you are a socialist.  You cannot pick and choose here: this is not a la carte.

BTW, what is a carte?


a carte = menu. From the menu.

Anyway, yes you can. You can socialize healthcare but not all business. Socialize education but not all schools. 

Watch you articles young man Smiley
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