Surprise Democratic States
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2024, 03:13:12 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Election Archive
  Election Archive
  2016 U.S. Presidential Election
  Surprise Democratic States
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Poll
Question: Which of these states is most likely to vote for Clinton in November?
#1
Texas
 
#2
Alaska
 
#3
Montana
 
#4
North Dakota
 
#5
South Dakota
 
#6
South Carolina
 
#7
Louisiana
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 117

Author Topic: Surprise Democratic States  (Read 1874 times)
Erc
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,823
Slovenia


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: July 25, 2016, 04:32:14 AM »

Looking at some truly reach states for Clinton, beyond the usually discussed states.

Which of these would you be the least surprised to wake up on Wednesday the 9th and find out Clinton won?  And how likely would you say a Clinton win would be in that state?
Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,156
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2016, 04:38:18 AM »

Texas, not because it's likely to happen, but it is conceivable that Trump could manage to mobilize the Hispanic vote to come out in far larger numbers than it traditionally has.  But at this point, I fully expect all those state to be safely in the Trump column come November.
Logged
Unimog
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 453
Namibia


Political Matrix
E: -3.00, S: -2.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2016, 06:15:12 AM »

- voted Montana
- possibly ND & alaska also

- but i'm quite sure that Trump is carrying all of this states.
Logged
LLR
LongLiveRock
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,956


WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2016, 07:37:01 AM »

Everyone knows my vote
Logged
Sir Mohamed
MohamedChalid
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,714
United States



Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2016, 08:46:08 AM »

AK. Maybe with Gov. Walker's help, he's popular there.
Logged
evergreenarbor
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 864


Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: -8.43

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2016, 11:57:33 AM »

Alaska or Montana. Voted Alaska because I think it's slightly more likely to flip, but I wouldn't be shocked if Clinton picked up either if she won in a landslide.
Logged
Ljube
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,060
Political Matrix
E: 2.71, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2016, 12:08:44 PM »

It is very difficult to imagine conditions where a single one of those states would vote for Hillary.

Probably Louisiana. It was anti-Trump in the primaries.
Logged
Bandit3 the Worker
Populist3
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,958


Political Matrix
E: -10.00, S: -9.92

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2016, 12:13:32 PM »

If Clinton hadn't blown it by picking Tim Kaine, I would have said Alaska, Missouri, and very possibly Utah were likely Clinton states.
Logged
Mallow
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 737
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2016, 12:20:25 PM »

TX, about a 5% chance.
Logged
Xing
xingkerui
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 30,307
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.52, S: -3.91

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2016, 12:20:47 PM »

Alaska, since it might be trending Democratic. If not, South Dakota. You all know why. Wink
Logged
Senator-elect Spark
Spark498
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,726
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: 0.00

P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2016, 12:52:13 PM »

Alaska
Logged
Kingpoleon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 22,144
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2016, 01:00:36 PM »

Logged
PeteB
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,874
Canada


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2016, 02:51:37 PM »

Probably none, but I picked Montana as the most likely.
Logged
TDAS04
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 23,543
Bhutan


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2016, 02:57:55 PM »

Logged
Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2016, 02:58:41 PM »

It is very difficult to imagine conditions where a single one of those states would vote for Hillary.

Probably Louisiana. It was anti-Trump in the primaries.


That doesn't mean a whole lot.  Indiana went to Clinton in the 2008 primary, but flipped to Obama in the general.
Logged
Frozen Sky Ever Why
ShadowOfTheWave
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,637
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2016, 04:06:21 PM »

Couldn't vote because there is a 0% chance of any voting for Hillary.
Logged
edmund
Rookie
**
Posts: 16
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2016, 04:29:59 PM »

It's not listed in this group but I would think possibly Missouri.  Until recently Missouri was a battleground state hotly contested going with the winner in every election from 1904 thru 2004 except 1956.  Obama just barely lost it in 2008.   If Hillary can increase her share in the main metropolitan centers of Kansas City and St. Louis she could carry Missouri although she doesn't need it.
Logged
Young Conservative
youngconservative
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,029
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2016, 05:03:10 PM »

Obviously there is no chance any of these will vote for Secretary clinton
Logged
dirks
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 416


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2016, 05:32:07 PM »

None of them. All of these are Trump, and all Trump +10.

Maybe SC could be under 10%
Logged
Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.
Nathan
Moderators
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 34,423


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2016, 05:35:16 PM »

Probably none, but I picked Montana as the most likely.
Logged
afleitch
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,861


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2016, 03:48:21 AM »

Texas by a few thousand votes and a higher than expected Johnson vote? I'd go with that.
Logged
HAnnA MArin County
semocrat08
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,041
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2016, 05:11:07 AM »

Demographically speaking, Texas.

Based on current trends, Alaska.
Logged
Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2016, 08:43:21 AM »

Given how tight the race appears, there's zero chance of Clinton taking any of these.  However, I can see the race shifting in a way that would.  Even with his convention bounce, Trump is still struggling to break 45% in the polls (except for a few outliers), and in a 4-way race, he's struggling to break 40%.  There is plenty of room for Clinton to occupy the rest of that space.  If the reason Clinton's numbers are so low is due to reservations swing voters - and liberal voters - have about her, a highly successful campaign could put those reservations to rest and turn things around.  A 52-41 (or 53-42) result is not out of the question, and a double-digit PV win opens up the map for her.
Logged
Vosem
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,637
United States


Political Matrix
E: 8.13, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2016, 11:51:51 AM »

Alaska has a high and rising Democratic floor, an elastic electorate, and a tradition of even minor third-party candidates receiving very strong percentages -- I would be very surprised if Johnson doesn't cross double-digits there even if he is only at 4-5% nationwide, and generally in Alaska third-party votes come from the right column, though not always. I could easily see something along the lines of C42-T41-J13-other3 even with current polling.

Montana has some of the same patterns, but it also has a traditionally-Democratic white-working class demographic (Schweitzer Democrats) that may be vulnerable to cross over for Trump, so I think it's less likely unless Johnson surges or makes it into the debate somehow.

Still, all of these are very unlikely. I'd be surprised if Alaska and Texas aren't at least within single digits (probably high single digits) though.
Logged
Suburbia
bronz4141
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 19,684
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2016, 12:27:16 PM »

I say Texas. A large Hispanic population plus African Americans in Dallas and Houston.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.05 seconds with 15 queries.