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IceSpear
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« on: July 26, 2016, 03:14:32 PM »

How much of the Democrats' problem is messaging and how is because their candidate just isn't very good? She's at ~40% favorability, has 24 years of scandals and baggage, and all of her husband's problems. If a generic D like Hickenlooper, Klobucher, Kaine, Jerry Brown, Gillibrant, etc, was running against Donald Trump, with a similar message, would he/she be having the same problems? On the converse, I'd bet that boring, standard generic R would have a solid lead over Hillary right now.

Because the GOP hate machine and the media would let Jerry Brown or Hickenlooper claim the presidency unscathed. LOL.

It's like some of you guys don't even realize how elections work. Everyone looks like a stronger candidate...until they actually run.
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IceSpear
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 06:51:06 PM »

when are you gonna drop this talking point, icespear? president obama has been just as much of a target (more, really) than clinton, and yet his approvals are a full twenty points better.

Compare Obama's approval vs. Hillary's favorability in 2014 and get back to me.

Obama still gets attacked, but Hillary is by far the main target, and that allows him to float above the fray. The opposite dynamic was at play from 2009-2015.
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