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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2016, 03:05:23 PM »

This seems totally reasonable after an RNC held in Ohio.
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« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2016, 03:06:00 PM »

Not a particularly great showing for Johnson or Stein.

I expect them to start to fade as the cycle goes on. Also Ohio won't be a good state for either.

This too. Neither is a very good fit for the state, except maybe some parts of Columbus
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« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2016, 03:06:14 PM »

Putin's approval rating in Ohio is 6/66, and 8/62 among Ohio Trump voters. 19% say Hillary has ties to Lucifer.
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« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2016, 03:08:14 PM »

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Again, it looks like the RNC was successful in consolidating the Republican base and to a lesser extent the Democratic base.

While obviously this isn't good news for Clinton, this isn't horrendous. Based on this I imagine Hillary is still at least 1-2 points up in Pennsylvania.

No. She is behind in Pennsylvania.

We really need to get more Pennsylvania polls so the red avatars here will finally get a grip.


You aren't making any sense. If there are no polls of Pennsylvania, then how do you know that she is behind. You can't make up polls on your computer or in your head and pass them off as real. That's not how things work.

All of my predictions so far have been based on the state fundamentals and only later corroborated by polls. Pennsylvania demographics are more favorable to Trump than Ohio demographics.
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2016, 03:09:03 PM »

Putin's approval rating in Ohio is 6/66, and 8/62 among Ohio Trump voters. 19% say Hillary has ties to Lucifer.

The Putin attack line could be good way to go in the future.
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« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2016, 03:25:17 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that Public Policy Polling is typically a couple points Dem leaning.
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« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2016, 03:26:43 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that Public Policy Polling is typically a couple points Dem leaning.
It's not true, in 2012 that was the best pollster for predicting the outcome.
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« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2016, 03:28:06 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that Public Policy Polling is typically a couple points Dem leaning.
It's not true, in 2012 that was the best pollster for predicting the outcome.

Those aren't mutually exclusive claims.
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« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2016, 03:28:27 PM »

Not a particularly great showing for Johnson or Stein.

and still a better showing in the state for third party candidates since 1996
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« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2016, 03:30:53 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that Public Policy Polling is typically a couple points Dem leaning.

While this was true a few years ago, they've had much less bias in recent years.  538 currently has them listed as R+0.2.
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« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2016, 03:42:10 PM »

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Again, it looks like the RNC was successful in consolidating the Republican base and to a lesser extent the Democratic base.

While obviously this isn't good news for Clinton, this isn't horrendous. Based on this I imagine Hillary is still at least 1-2 points up in Pennsylvania.

No. She is behind in Pennsylvania.

We really need to get more Pennsylvania polls so the red avatars here will finally get a grip.


You aren't making any sense. If there are no polls of Pennsylvania, then how do you know that she is behind. You can't make up polls on your computer or in your head and pass them off as real. That's not how things work.

All of my predictions so far have been based on the state fundamentals and only later corroborated by polls. Pennsylvania demographics are more favorable to Trump than Ohio demographics.

Correct PA has been polling to the right of OH this cycle for whatever reason. (Whether I believe it or not).
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« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2016, 03:43:28 PM »

Another thing to keep in mind is that Public Policy Polling is typically a couple points Dem leaning.

While this was true a few years ago, they've had much less bias in recent years.  538 currently has them listed as R+0.2.

Ah, so they do. I stand corrected.
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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2016, 06:40:09 PM »

Could be much worse.
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« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2016, 11:53:13 PM »

Woah, they asked my question! I was the one who suggested the Obama vs Trump match-up. Grin
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« Reply #39 on: July 26, 2016, 08:27:23 AM »

Woah, they asked my question! I was the one who suggested the Obama vs Trump match-up. Grin

Beautiful poll! It's looking like a 3rd term landslide! Purple heart

Obama leads Trump 48-44 and Romney 50-41 (as a hindsight support, not presently). Hmmmm, so much for that unelectable argument.
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« Reply #40 on: July 26, 2016, 08:31:45 AM »

Woah, they asked my question! I was the one who suggested the Obama vs Trump match-up. Grin

4 more years!
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« Reply #41 on: July 26, 2016, 08:34:17 AM »

That pesky 22nd amendment is very inconvenient this year.
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« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2016, 08:35:45 AM »

Only tied in a two-way race? Lean/likely D.
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« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2016, 08:42:24 AM »

How many millions of special interest dollars did she spent in Ohio already? And how many staffers does she have in that state? And how many did TRUMP spent by contrast? It's obvious which candidate is running the better and more efficient campaign.

Efficacy of staffers will show up on Election Day, not in polling.
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« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2016, 08:44:36 AM »

Undecideds support putting Clinton in prison 33/29 and Johnson voters by a 45/39 margin. (Stein even worse at 51/37)
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« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2016, 03:36:19 PM »

PPP is polling Pennsylvania this weekend! Looks like we may finally get an answer to the PA/OH relationship question.
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« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2016, 03:39:13 PM »

PPP is polling Pennsylvania this weekend! Looks like we may finally get an answer to the PA/OH relationship question.

Not really, since PA will be after the DNC whereas OH was after the RNC.
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« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2016, 03:52:34 PM »

PPP is polling Pennsylvania this weekend! Looks like we may finally get an answer to the PA/OH relationship question.

Not really, since PA will be after the DNC whereas OH was after the RNC.

Eh it's still something.
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« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2016, 04:43:02 PM »

PPP is polling Pennsylvania this weekend! Looks like we may finally get an answer to the PA/OH relationship question.

Not really, since PA will be after the DNC whereas OH was after the RNC.

    Time to unskew some polls. Cool
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