Vladimir Putin vs. Petro Poroshenko

[Californiadreaming]

As for me, I extremely reluctantly voted for Putin since, in terms of things such as economy development and reining in the oligarchs, he certainly appears to have done a better job than Poroshenko has.

[Crumpets]

Regardless of individual policies, Poroshenko seems to at least try to uphold a modicum of democracy in Ukraine, and I have no doubt that the next Ukrainian presidential election will be significantly more free and fair than the next Russian presidential election.

[Californiadreaming]

Regardless of individual policies, Poroshenko seems to at least try to uphold a modicum of democracy in Ukraine, and I have no doubt that the next Ukrainian presidential election will be significantly more free and fair than the next Russian presidential election.

While I certainly support democracy, I would like to point out that democracy has limited value if all of a country's politicians as corrupt as Hell and can't provide significant economic development for their country.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Poroshenko (like chocolate)

[Antonio the Sixth]

The one who's not a dictator (literally normal)

[Californiadreaming]

The one who's not a dictator (literally normal)

Doesn't Poroshenko throw people in jail for up to 15 years if they even verbally support the pro-Russian separatists, though?

[President Johnson]

Uncle Vlad

[Santander]

Putin (sane)

[Zioneer]

Putin (sane)

Poroshenko (actually sane)

[Ljube]

Putin, of course.

[Intell]

Putin, not a idiot or a liberal weenie.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Poroshenko, more's the pity.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The one who's not a dictator (literally normal)

Doesn't Poroshenko throw people in jail for up to 15 years if they even verbally support the pro-Russian separatists, though?

I wasn't aware of that. Source?

[Californiadreaming]

The one who's not a dictator (literally normal)

Doesn't Poroshenko throw people in jail for up to 15 years if they even verbally support the pro-Russian separatists, though?

I wasn't aware of that. Source?

Well, I have found this man's case:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/10/ukraine-draft-dodgers-jail-kiev-struggle-new-fighters

"Ruslan Kotsaba posted a video addressed to the Ukrainian president, Petro Poroshenko, last week in which he said he would rather go to prison for five years for draft-dodging than fight pro-Russia rebels in the country’s east. Now he faces 15 years in jail after being arrested for treason and obstructing the military."

[Californiadreaming]

Also, to elaborate on the information which I posted above:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/04/ukraine-suspicious-deaths-need-credible-investigations/

"Meanwhile, members of the media are suffering harassment at the hands of the authorities. Among them is the journalist and prominent blogger Ruslan Kotsaba – recently named as Amnesty International’s first Ukrainian prisoner of conscience in five years. He could face more than a decade in prison on the charge of “high treason” and for his views on the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine.

Ruslan Kotsaba was arrested on 7 February in Ivano-Frankivsk, 130 km south-east of Lviv, after he posted a video describing the conflict as “the Donbas fratricidal civil war”. He also expressed opposition to military conscription of Ukrainians to take part in the conflict.

After being formally charged on 31 March with “high treason”, he faces up to 15 years in prison, as well as up to an eight-year sentence on a further charge of “hindering the legitimate activities of the armed forces”. Amnesty International has called for his immediate and unconditional release, and we see his treatment as a brazen restriction on the right to freedom of expression.

The freedom to peacefully exercise that right was one of the fundamental rallying cries of the EuroMaydan protesters.

To now deny Yanukovych’s allies or other opposition members that same right – through imprisonment or death, or through lack of an effective investigation – would be the height of hypocrisy. It is also a betrayal of human rights, which must be protected for everyone, regardless of their political stripes."

[Antonio the Sixth]

That's not good, yeah.

Still, I'm pretty sure Poroshenko won't stay in power for 20 years though.

[Velasco]

Write-in: Willy Wonka

In other words, the fact that Putin is terrible doesn't turn Poroshenko into a Freedom Fighter.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

One is a criminal, the other is an incompetent joke.

[Zioneer]

One is a criminal, the other is an incompetent joke.

Putin's less a criminal and more a Bond villain in the flesh.

[Human]

Poroshenko, I guess