Why do people cite the OKC bombing as an example of Christian terrorism?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Because they need big-scale, memorable examples.

It was a good example of far-right terrorism, but not Christian terrorism.

[Mr. Reactionary]

A bunch of different ideologies got lumped together in the 90s brown scare. You had the Norm Olsen types like the Michigan Militia who were just anti-government but you also had the John Trochmann types like the Militia of Montana who were all about anti-christ tribulation stuff. The Southern Poverty Lie Center gets money by scaring people, so they just lump these groups together and claim they all believe in the worst traits of both because they're icky right wing extremists, unlike those noble sympathetic lefty terrorists. McVeigh = Anti-government = Militia = Tribulation Force = Racist. Don't question the math.

[Santander]

For once, I agree entirely with what BRTD says.

[dead0man]

Because the idiots that say "all religions are the same" don't care about things like facts.

[Joe Republic]

Who are these "people" you speak of?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Who are these "people" you speak of?

What about our white Christian friends?

Spanish Inquisition, Holocaust, Crusades, Oklahoma City

[dead0man]

Xahar used it as an example more than a few times.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

Due to a lack of large-scale recent examples of Christian terrorism.

[Wells]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

Due to a lack of large-scale recent examples of Christian terrorism.

Yeah, pretty much.

Anyway, I won't be using it again, okay?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

Due to a lack of large-scale recent examples of Christian terrorism.

Yeah, pretty much.

Anyway, I won't be using it again, okay?

Please do as it triggers the Christians.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

A heck of a lot more than Islamic homophobia has to do with a repressed homosexual killing 49 people at a Florida gay club, but that didn't stop exponentially more people on this forum from connecting the two.

And Christian extremists are more often than not the ones fanning the flames of antigovernment ideology.

It's kind of bizarre that of all the ugly and disgusting things that happened in the wake of Oklahoma city "poor persecuted Christians" is the main point you took away from that.  I seem to recall brown people and other religions being hunted down like dogs until it was revealed our friendly neighborhood bomber was a white guy.  Then all of a sudden it wasn't about the color of your skin, nor your culture's dominant religion nor where your parents came from.  All of a sudden it was just about an individual.  An exception to the rule.

Brown lives matter, man.

This thing where when a white guy does something there are all kinds of excuses but when a brown or black person does something or when a Muslim person does something an entire race or religion is condemned needs to stop.  The extremist Christian culture in this country is responsible for a lot of terrible things.  And I say that as a Christian.

[RINO Tom]

Unless a person is blatantly tying their religion to his/her actions, I'm very weary of tying a terrible act being explained away by the guy's or gal's religion.  Especially dubious was the assertion that the Holocaust was perpetuated in the name of Christianity.  It would quite literally be more accurate (while still completely dubious) to say it was DEFEATED in the name of Christianity, LOL.  Again, neither are close to true, but the highest ranking and most iconic Nazis most certainly had serious contempt for Christianity.

[RI]

Especially dubious was the assertion that the Holocaust was perpetuated in the name of Christianity.  It would quite literally be more accurate (while still completely dubious) to say it was DEFEATED in the name of Christianity, LOL.  Again, neither are close to true, but the highest ranking and most iconic Nazis most certainly had serious contempt for Christianity.

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, half a million Orthodox Serbs, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

[RI]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

If Christians in Europe during the 1930s loved and respected Jews the holocaust wouldn't have happened.  You can spin it any way you want but all major world religions have darkness lurking within their ranks.

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[they don't love you like i love you]

Like what on Earth does an agnostic blowing up a federal building because of an extreme anti-government ideology have to do with Christianity?

Due to a lack of large-scale recent examples of Christian terrorism.

Yeah, pretty much.

Anyway, I won't be using it again, okay?

Please do as it triggers the Christians.

But you are also a Christian.

[RINO Tom]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

If Christians in Europe during the 1930s loved and respected Jews the holocaust wouldn't have happened.  You can spin it any way you want but all major world religions have darkness lurking within their ranks.

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How is that, by any stretch of the imagination, a coherent argument in favor of the Nazis being MOTIVATED by Christianity...?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Keep telling me what I am.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

If Christians in Europe during the 1930s loved and respected Jews the holocaust wouldn't have happened.  You can spin it any way you want but all major world religions have darkness lurking within their ranks.

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How is that, by any stretch of the imagination, a coherent argument in favor of the Nazis being MOTIVATED by Christianity...?

I never said anything about being MOTIVATED by anything.  Is reading comprehension an issue?  Nazis sprung up and flourished in a Christian nation.  The bulk of their foot soldiers who carried out their atrocities were Christians.  Why are people in denial about this but believe "Islamic homophobia" killed 49 people in Florida?  Why is there always a double standard between white skin/black or brown skin?  Why the double standard between Christian/anything else?

[RFayette]

Keep telling me what I am.

It sounds like you're implying that Catholics aren't really Christians.  

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Who are these "people" you speak of?

Certainly not, ODF.

[RINO Tom]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

If Christians in Europe during the 1930s loved and respected Jews the holocaust wouldn't have happened.  You can spin it any way you want but all major world religions have darkness lurking within their ranks.

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How is that, by any stretch of the imagination, a coherent argument in favor of the Nazis being MOTIVATED by Christianity...?

I never said anything about being MOTIVATED by anything.  Is reading comprehension an issue?  Nazis sprung up and flourished in a Christian nation.  The bulk of their foot soldiers who carried out their atrocities were Christians.  Why are people in denial about this but believe "Islamic homophobia" killed 49 people in Florida?  Why is there always a double standard between white skin/black or brown skin?  Why the double standard between Christian/anything else?

I never said anything about the Orlando shooting being MOTIVATED by anything, much less "Islamic homophobia."  Is reading comprehension an issue?

The Nazis sprung up and flourished in a predominantly Christian nation, sure.  It was also fought by several Christian nations.  Pretty obvious to me that Christianity can't be tied to Nazism if it is not to be tied to the defeat of it, as well, because it's about as relevant to both.  When you then consider the Nazis disdain for believing in any power higher than the state, harsh treatment of church clergy and dabbling in Pagan nonsense, even insinuating that Christianity is more relevant to the Nazis than any other coincidental demographic trait that could be used to describe a majority of Germans in the 1930s (many of which applied also to most of the counties who fought against the Nazis) is just ridiculous.

[Taco Truck 🚚]

The Nazis even went out of their way to kill Catholic priests, three million Catholic Poles, and Jehovah's Witnesses during the Holocaust.

And ISIS has never killed or tortured a Muslim.

ISIS is explicitly and proudly Islamist. Do they have additional political motives? Sure, but there isn't a scrap of evidence that the Nazis were motivated by Christianity in the slightest.

If Christians in Europe during the 1930s loved and respected Jews the holocaust wouldn't have happened.  You can spin it any way you want but all major world religions have darkness lurking within their ranks.

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How is that, by any stretch of the imagination, a coherent argument in favor of the Nazis being MOTIVATED by Christianity...?

I never said anything about being MOTIVATED by anything.  Is reading comprehension an issue?  Nazis sprung up and flourished in a Christian nation.  The bulk of their foot soldiers who carried out their atrocities were Christians.  Why are people in denial about this but believe "Islamic homophobia" killed 49 people in Florida?  Why is there always a double standard between white skin/black or brown skin?  Why the double standard between Christian/anything else?

I never said anything about the Orlando shooting being MOTIVATED by anything, much less "Islamic homophobia."

I never said you did.  I guess reading comprehension is a problem.

The Nazis sprung up and flourished in a predominantly Christian nation, sure.  It was also fought by several Christian nations.

Same with ISIS.  That's my point.

When you draw the Venn diagram of people who want everyone to shout Islamic terror from the roof tops six times a day to prove their patriotism and the people who want to ignore the fact the bulk of Nazis were Christians the overlap is huge.  That's it.  Pretty simple.  That's the point I'm making.