Is Obama the greatest president since FDR?

[nicholas.slaydon]

This has to be a joke. Obama isn't even fit to polish the boots of FDR, let alone be the greatest president since. Eisenhower, LBJ, Truman and to some extent Nixon were all better than Obama.

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bruh u srs

I can understand finding Nixon a fascinating figure in American history. I can't understand ranking him as a good President.

Nixon ended the war in Vietnam, he opened relations with China and deescalated the Cold War, he ended the draft, he got us to the moon, he got the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with the Soviet Union and he enforced desegregation in the south.

All Obama has done is re-inflate the US economy, got us involved militarily in more countries the G.W. Bush, failed to reduce  the national debt, bailed out wall street while adding no new enforceable legislation, let criminal bankers walk free, let soldiers who illegally tortured people go without trial and prosecution, continued nation building in Iraq and Afghanistan, started the drone program, failed to close Guantanamo Bay, expanded NSA spying etc.

That's still nothing on purposefully and unnecessarily escalating Vietnam first with carpet-bombing on the side, beginning deregulation, using the IRS to target opponents, treason, trying to nominate segregationists to the Supreme Court, 1972 "dirty tricks".

Not even gonna bother with the obvious one.

When Nixon deregulated the economy his administration had good oversight on the business community, so they could not get reckless with the economy, and many regulatory programs from the New Deal and the Great Society still stood. There is an argument to be made that Obama (and almost every president in modern times) has used the IRS to target political opponents. And as to Watergate, there always has been and always will be political espionage between the political parties, the only thing different is that Nixon got caught.

[Sir Mohamed]

Too early to tell.

I'd pick him as one of the best along with Truman, Ike, JFK, LBJ and Bill.

[Phony Moderate]

- Got us out of the EU

How?

Slightly tongue-in-cheek but there's little doubt that his Nelson Muntz performance when he visited a few months ago helped Leave.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I laugh whrn people compare presidents based on specific issues. Yiu need to analyse figures based on the context of their tines people - sme of these takes are about as logical as saying Lincoln was a terrible president because he had no gloval warming strategy ot that Buchanan was decent on retrospect because he didn't push NSA surveillance ofthe interbet.

[SWE]

Ford and Carter were both less bad.

[The Dowager Mod]

Truman was better.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Truman was better.

My answer as well.

[Torie]

He's average, and that is not a choice, so no vote from me.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Truman was better.

Too corrupt for me, and his domestic policy was largely hamstrung. Weird how people forget that in retrospect.

[Human]

No

Obama is fantastic, but Bill Clinton, JFK, and Reagan are better.

[RINO Tom]

My list

1. Eisenhower (R-Kan.)
2. Reagan (R-Calif.)
3. Kennedy (D-Mass.)
4. Bush 41 (R-Conn.)
5. Johnson (D-Tex.) (CRA weighs heavily)
6. Clinton (D-Ark.)
7. Obama (D-Ill.)
8. Truman (D-Mo.)
9. Ford (R-Mich.)
10. Bush 43 (R-Tex.)
11. Carter (D-Ga.)
12. Nixon (R-Calif.)

[President Johnson]

No, the best since WW2 are LBJ and Truman. But Mr. President is certainly above-average.

[HisGrace]

Actually one of the worst.