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Question: Will Donald Trump recover from his latest slump?
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No. In fact it will get a whole lot worse for him.
 
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It won't get any worse, but it won't get any better..
 
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He'll pull into a tie or lead again, but still lose.
 
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He'll not only bounce back, but win the election.
 
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Who the hell knows?
 
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Beefalow and the Consumer
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« on: August 03, 2016, 08:07:46 AM »

Will Trump recover at all from the disaster of the last two weeks?
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 08:11:17 AM »

As an atheist, I'll say "Thank F'ing God, Yes!"  He might stay in the race and make it harder on himself but I'm thinking his kids are telling him they don't want to be poor so he should shut up and bow out.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 08:12:17 AM »

Considering the goldfish memory that voters and the media seem to have, option 3 seems most likely.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 08:32:56 AM »

Trump is in trouble and he can improve the situation using some unexpected non trivial  trick. For example, he can invite me (I am a Russian as you know)  to make a speech at a rally. I can do it without a teleprompter.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 08:34:37 AM »

NFI.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 08:35:12 AM »

Difficult to tell. I’d say he may improve from it, but new disaster are to follow. You never know what happens next with this psychopath.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 10:01:38 AM »

If this were any other Republican having this kind of press whilst running against any other Democrat, we'd probably be in for a map that looked like 1964. But this is Trump vs. Clinton, so the last option seems appropriate.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 10:04:07 AM »

Option 5 is the only reasonable answer.

We're still at a point where anything is possible.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 10:05:57 AM »

Let's wait until the debate.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 10:28:24 AM »

I'd love to say option 1, but obviously I have to say option 5.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 10:53:49 AM »

Well, considering he spent so much time attacking Cruz, again, after the convention, instead of acting Presidential and talking about real issues important to the nation, this does not bode well for the future of the Trump campaign.

Trump is, obviously, the kind of a person who holds a grudge for an abnormal period of time, which is anything but leadership.

He is spiteful and vengeful, and this is becoming more and more clear as time goes on, and what else is becoming clear is that Trump really does not have a grasp of the issues of the day, in America and around the world.

He would rather spend time attacking those Republicans who for good reason will not support him and who  criticize him, e.g. Cruz, Ryan, McCain, than engaging in substantive debate and discussion.

If Trump does not do an about face, and start acting like a serious Presidential candidate, and not like some petulant fifth grader in a school yard, and soon, his campaign is doomed.       
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 11:44:12 AM »

Well, considering he spent so much time attacking Cruz, again, after the convention, instead of acting Presidential and talking about real issues important to the nation, this does not bode well for the future of the Trump campaign.

Trump is, obviously, the kind of a person who holds a grudge for an abnormal period of time, which is anything but leadership.

He is spiteful and vengeful, and this is becoming more and more clear as time goes on, and what else is becoming clear is that Trump really does not have a grasp of the issues of the day, in America and around the world.

He would rather spend time attacking those Republicans who for good reason will not support him and who  criticize him, e.g. Cruz, Ryan, McCain, than engaging in substantive debate and discussion.

If Trump does not do an about face, and start acting like a serious Presidential candidate, and not like some petulant fifth grader in a school yard, and soon, his campaign is doomed.       

That ship has sailed long ago.  Trump realizes he is in over his head and I think he wants out.  He just requires a pay-out for his "sacrifice".  Hopefully Ryan, Priebus & Co. will see that, and act accordingly.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 12:44:19 PM »


This is the only thing I can be sure of.
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 02:36:30 PM »

Not yet though it doesn't look so well. Honestly, I hope he is.
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 02:38:26 PM »

Not yet though it doesn't look so well. Honestly, I hope he is.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 02:39:06 PM »

He's pretty much done.

I guess ...

A comeback would be a surprise. The Hillary team has successfully sent Trump into the Khan trap and managed not only deflect her Iraq War vote and turn it against him, but also managed to deflect her email problems and turned it against him ("Russia, plz spy on us and hack us !").
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 04:27:21 PM »

He's doomed.  Hillary will win with over 375 EV.
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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 04:41:16 PM »

He's pretty much done.

I guess ...

A comeback would be a surprise. The Hillary team has successfully sent Trump into the Khan trap and managed not only deflect her Iraq War vote and turn it against him, but also managed to deflect her email problems and turned it against him ("Russia, plz spy on us and hack us !").

There was one poll that just came out that showed him ahead in a state that he absolutely needs to win the presidency (North Carolina).  I mean, other polling data shows him behind, but this single state poll could be a turning point for him!
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 04:51:55 PM »

Well, considering he spent so much time attacking Cruz, again, after the convention, instead of acting Presidential and talking about real issues important to the nation, this does not bode well for the future of the Trump campaign.

Trump is, obviously, the kind of a person who holds a grudge for an abnormal period of time, which is anything but leadership.

He is spiteful and vengeful, and this is becoming more and more clear as time goes on, and what else is becoming clear is that Trump really does not have a grasp of the issues of the day, in America and around the world.

He would rather spend time attacking those Republicans who for good reason will not support him and who  criticize him, e.g. Cruz, Ryan, McCain, than engaging in substantive debate and discussion.

If Trump does not do an about face, and start acting like a serious Presidential candidate, and not like some petulant fifth grader in a school yard, and soon, his campaign is doomed.       

The problem with that is Trump is 70 years old and has been operating like that for most of his life. There is no chance that he can or will change. If he does, then he won't be Trump and it will turn off a lot of his supporters.

In fact, people have been asking what will it take for voters to stop supporting Trump. It's not all the outrageous things he keeps doing, it would be because he's no longer doing them.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 05:11:22 PM »

Some of you guys at Atlas seem to lack perspective sometimes. Trump is a terrible candidate, but polling wise there have been worse. And I love Hillary but I fear some of her baggage could come back to haunt her. Trump's Campaign is in trouble, but you'd have to be short sighted to think replacing him would be an option at this point.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2016, 05:17:01 PM »

Option 5 is the only reasonable answer.

We're still at a point where anything is possible.

This is the truth. There are still 3 months to go
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2016, 05:24:59 PM »

So Atlas. Pick the time that's going to end up being peak Hillary! and declare Trump done. Just like Hillary! was in trouble last week after the RNC.

Of course Trump is not finished.
1) The Hillary bounce will fade like most convention bounces will.
2) The election will tighten about the time these pollsters switch to LV.
3) There is a long way to go.

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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2016, 05:43:31 PM »

The Khan debacle has hurt Trump in August just like the Curiel debacle hurt him in June.  Luckily for Trump this happened in early August and he has time to recover if he actually has the capability to do so. 

He needs to stop attacking sympathetic peripheral figures in the race and focus exclusively on Hillary Clinton, the economy/jobs, national security, sane non-interventionism, trade, and immigration.  His best bet would be to try to tie restrictive trade and immigration policy to jobs and wages as much as possible (whether empirically accurate or not).

If he can't stop with the stupid attacks he is either trying to lose or has a serious personality disorder.
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2016, 06:54:21 PM »

Some of you guys at Atlas seem to lack perspective sometimes. Trump is a terrible candidate, but polling wise there have been worse. And I love Hillary but I fear some of her baggage could come back to haunt her. Trump's Campaign is in trouble, but you'd have to be short sighted to think replacing him would be an option at this point.

I have never felt so lousy about a Presidential race in my entire life.  Many folks feel the same way, which is why nothing would surprise me.

If the election were held today, I would not vote for Donald Trump. 

The controversy over Mr. Khan doesn't bother me.  Mr. Khan is a Gold Star Father who injected that status into partisan politics, and he reaped the Trump Maelstrom.  I think a lot of folks (including a lot of Republicans) have piled on because they've wanted a "real Republican".  And Mr. Khan may be well on the way to what he really wanted, which was for Trump to go down and not get back up, so he's looking like a winner in this deal, whether he deserves to be or not. 

Trump handled the situation by ramping up the chaos in ways that were unavoidable.  The worst (but not the only) thing was lending support to Paul Ryan's primary challenger, after Ryan gave him a rather mild rebuke over the Mr. Khan issue.  What kind of "deals" could he ever make as President when he does a reluctant ally that way?  Being a moderate RINO, I could care less about Paul Ryan's primary, but I do care about a Presidential Administration being able to get things done.  McGovern made nice with Richard Daley AFTER his delegates booted the Daley delegation from the 1972 DNC; he displayed friendliness toward George and Cornelia Wallace, who did not endorse him and who was poles apart from him on a number of issues.  Goldwater, who was more coarse as a candidate than McGovern, never trashed the moderates who were #NeverGoldwater, even after the raucous 1964 RNC. 

I cannot imagine a President Trump getting anything done.  I don't see him as willing to make the kind of "friends" needed in politics to get anything done, and especially given that his personal platform of issues is one which requires BOTH parties in Congress to compromise some.  I can't see him being the builder of a new infrastructure that this country needs, which I hoped he'd be.  And I don't see him as responsive to ANYONE in his inner circle; not even his kids, Don and Ivanka, who appear to know something about politics and PR. 

I don't know what I'll do.  I loathe Hillary, and if I vote for her, it will be in the privacy of the voting booth, and without a kind word toward her on my part.  She doesn't deserve to be President.  Gary Johnson does, relative to the others running, but if mental health is the issue, then the Presidential race this year isn't far away from the Edwin Edwards-David Duke LA Governor's race of 1991.  A dumpster fire it was, but the remedy there was obvious.

Perhaps I'll feel better after throwing up.  I hope so.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2016, 07:10:53 PM »

How many times have we thought Trump was finished during this election cycle? I am never going to say he's done again until he actually loses to Hillary.
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