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« on: August 03, 2016, 02:54:31 PM »

EXCLUSIVE: New poll shows Trump has a big Hispanic problem in Florida

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Ouch. Poll was taken before the shenanigans of the last few days too.
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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2016, 02:56:36 PM »

What percentage did Clinton get? Either way, if this is at all accurate, there's no way he's winning Florida.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2016, 02:58:24 PM »

13% Latino support in FL is in line with the rest of the nation MoL which means that the Cubans are voting against Trump and FL is way out of reach if this is true.
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2016, 03:00:30 PM »

Whoa. Latinos in Florida are usually much more Republican than the nation as a whole. This does bode well for him nationally.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2016, 03:08:40 PM »

Whoa. Latinos in Florida are usually much more Republican than the nation as a whole. This does bode well for him nationally.

Yeah, Pitbull (who endorsed Rick Scott over Charlie Crist) hates Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2016, 03:16:36 PM »

Congrats Donnie, for another record. Just not one you'll like that much.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2016, 03:18:42 PM »

Hey, it's just like how Clinton/Kaine may do with white voters too. Whites are leaving the Democratic Party, just like how Latinos are leaving the GOP slowly. However, Rubio should help Trump a bit in Florida.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2016, 03:25:13 PM »

Hey, it's just like how Clinton/Kaine may do with white voters too. Whites are leaving the Democratic Party, just like how Latinos are leaving the GOP slowly. However, Rubio should help Trump a bit in Florida.

If Clinton is overperforming Obama with white women and college educated whites, then....
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2016, 03:26:33 PM »

Trump's campaign is completely dead in FL with only 13% of Latinos. He will lose by a historic margin in WPB, Broward, Miami-Dade and in the I-4. It will be to such an extent that there is no way to make it up in the rest of the state
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2016, 03:34:09 PM »

Hey, it's just like how Clinton/Kaine may do with white voters too. Whites are leaving the Democratic Party, just like how Latinos are leaving the GOP slowly. However, Rubio should help Trump a bit in Florida.


Clinton's not getting 13% of white voters. Maybe she'll get about that much in parts of Appalachia, but she'll do fine among urban white voters.
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2016, 03:40:13 PM »

This alone would add 10 points to the Democratic margin when compared to 2012.

An 11-point win for Clinton? Seems practically impossible. Are we sure they included Cubans in this poll? Are the Puerto Ricans finally taking over?
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2016, 03:58:07 PM »

Florida isn't even going to be competitive at this rate
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2016, 03:58:44 PM »

This alone would add 10 points to the Democratic margin when compared to 2012.

An 11-point win for Clinton? Seems practically impossible. Are we sure they included Cubans in this poll? Are the Puerto Ricans finally taking over?

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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2016, 04:02:08 PM »

Junk poll!
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2016, 04:02:46 PM »

This alone would add 10 points to the Democratic margin when compared to 2012.
An 11-point win for Clinton? Seems practically impossible. Are we sure they included Cubans in this poll? Are the Puerto Ricans finally taking over?

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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2016, 04:18:29 PM »

This alone would add 10 points to the Democratic margin when compared to 2012.
An 11-point win for Clinton? Seems practically impossible. Are we sure they included Cubans in this poll? Are the Puerto Ricans finally taking over?

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If the collapse in support is even half as savage as this, then I'll be eagerly awaiting 2018 to see how that plays out in the Gov/Senate race. Based on polls from 2010-2014, Republicans were already hemorrhaging Hispanic support. If even some of this drop sticks, it could seriously hurt the FL GOP in statewide races.
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2016, 04:23:25 PM »
« Edited: August 03, 2016, 04:29:53 PM by ProudModerate2 »

Basically, this is a breakdown of today's numbers, compared to past Presidential Republican candidates ....

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« Reply #17 on: August 03, 2016, 06:10:01 PM »

We know that Trump is terrible for Hispanics, but I highly doubt the result of this poll. Not only are Florida Hispanics more Republican than the nation (suggesting he's getting even less than 13% nationwide) but it also suggests Trump should be way behind, at least 5 points behind, Clinton. Can he really be doing that well with old whites otherwise?
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« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2016, 06:19:44 PM »

Considering Obama only won latinos in Florida by 60-40 or a margin like that, there is no way Trump can win in Florida with this abysmally low level of support.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2016, 06:22:08 PM »

We know that Trump is terrible for Hispanics, but I highly doubt the result of this poll. Not only are Florida Hispanics more Republican than the nation (suggesting he's getting even less than 13% nationwide) but it also suggests Trump should be way behind, at least 5 points behind, Clinton. Can he really be doing that well with old whites otherwise?

I see three possibilities:

1) This poll is wrong, and Trump is doing significantly better with Latinos than it suggests (at least in Florida.)

2) Trump is doing significantly better than Romney among white voters, especially in the panhandle.

3) Polling in Florida is underestimating Clinton.

Or, it could be a combination of the three.
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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2016, 06:28:52 PM »

Can someone please give us a decent poll of Texas from a reputable polling organization with appropriate weighted crosstabs?
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2016, 07:04:28 PM »

Time to triage Florida I guess.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2016, 09:15:08 PM »

So is the only reason Latino only polls find such different numbers from general polls because they poll in Spanish or is it some other reason?
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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2016, 09:33:50 PM »

So is the only reason Latino only polls find such different numbers from general polls because they poll in Spanish or is it some other reason?

I would guess that the effect is you're going to pick up a lot of people who won't end up voting in the end.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2016, 09:36:57 PM »

So is the only reason Latino only polls find such different numbers from general polls because they poll in Spanish or is it some other reason?

I would guess that the effect is you're going to pick up a lot of people who won't end up voting in the end.

There was an analysis done that had Obama's support among Latinos in most national and some state polls being underestimated by as much as 7-10%. A BIG reason for this was limited Spanish language options.
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