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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2016, 11:20:43 AM »

Jesus Christ, the fact that this many posters would support an entirely undemocratic action just because they disagree with the policies of the President. Y'all are some closet Fascists.
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« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2016, 11:36:25 AM »

Not unless he was literally about to launch nukes or the like.
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« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2016, 11:59:32 AM »

No. However, if he was proving genuinely dangerous to the constitution, the citizenry of the US, or the world at large based on his actions as President, I would support the cabinet removing him and installing Pence as President, as is allowed by the Constitution.
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« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2016, 12:09:23 PM »

I'm not in favor of a coup, as it would damage the integrity of our democracy.  If Trump behaves like Hitler/Mussolini/etc, I would support instead voting for members of Congress that will commit to impeaching him.  Of course even then, we'd end up with Pence.
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« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2016, 12:10:39 PM »

Not unless he was literally about to launch nukes or the like.

If he launches nukes period or if he launches nukes rashly?
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« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2016, 12:26:41 PM »

Not unless he was literally about to launch nukes or the like.

If he launches nukes period or if he launches nukes rashly?

Rashly. As in him requesting the nuclear football because of an argument with Xi Jinping on Twitter. I would vote yes if trump was about to do that. Otherwise let our democratic institutions deal with trump if he is unfit for office.

The United States should only consider the use of nuclear weapons if we are attacked with nuclear weapons or some other weapon of mass destruction.
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« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2016, 12:43:46 PM »

What if the military refused his wishes after he asks for the nuclear football following a twitter war? Would that be considered a coup? In a situation like that, there wouldn't be time for congress to intervene and impeach him, and the military might have to take action on it's own to save humanity. That being said, he should be impeached via the proper channels after the military refuses his orders.
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« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2016, 12:52:02 PM »

What if the military refused his wishes after he asks for the nuclear football following a twitter war? Would that be considered a coup? In a situation like that, there wouldn't be time for congress to intervene and impeach him, and the military might have to take action on it's own to save humanity. That being said, he should be impeached via the proper channels after the military refuses his orders.

I'm not sure if that would be classified as a traditional coup, but you make a good point about how Congress may be too slow to save humanity. I'm guessing that is why so many people voted yes on this poll. 

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« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 01:01:46 PM »

Yes, without question.  Trump is the greatest threat to the Union since the Civil War.  I would support suspending the Constitution.

Suspending the constitution?

Jesus. You call trump a threat to the country, but support repealing civil liberties en mass? That's utterly delusional. I'd only vote yes if Trump rashly requested access to the nuclear football. But until then, how about we go the route that doesn't turn America into a dictatorship, shall we?
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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 01:09:41 PM »

No, but if a private citizen decides to assassinate him I'd be okay with that.
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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2016, 01:11:20 PM »

No. If he oversteps his authority should be impeached. That would happen in such a case.
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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2016, 01:14:03 PM »

No, but if a private citizen decides to assassinate him I'd be okay with that.

I...don't...even.

Calling for assassinating a potential president on an Internet forum? Are you nuts?
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2016, 01:42:23 PM »

Yes, without question.  Trump is the greatest threat to the Union since the Civil War.  I would support suspending the Constitution.

A Trump victory would be proof that our Constitution has become irrelevant anyway, so I don't see why anyone would be concerned about "Constitutionality" at that point.

That's a disgusting line of thinking.
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2016, 01:47:41 PM »

Yes, without question.  Trump is the greatest threat to the Union since the Civil War.  I would support suspending the Constitution.

A Trump victory would be proof that our Constitution has become irrelevant anyway, so I don't see why anyone would be concerned about "Constitutionality" at that point.

That's a disgusting line of thinking.
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« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2016, 02:08:24 PM »

A lot of HP in this here thread. Angry
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« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2016, 02:14:30 PM »

No unless he shows an inkling to launch nukes for no reason
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« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2016, 02:25:29 PM »
« Edited: August 04, 2016, 02:33:17 PM by EliteLX »

The stupidity in this thread is vibrating.
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« Reply #42 on: August 04, 2016, 02:34:30 PM »

Jesus Christ, the fact that this many posters would support an entirely undemocratic action just because they disagree with the policies of the President. Y'all are some closet Fascists.
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« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2016, 02:56:11 PM »

No, but if a private citizen decides to assassinate him I'd be okay with that.
WTF? Condoning an assassination of a duly-elected sitting President in this hypo? That's even low by Atlas standards.
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« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2016, 02:59:16 PM »

No, but if a private citizen decides to assassinate him I'd be okay with that.
WTF? Condoning an assassination of a duly-elected sitting President in this hypo? That's even low by Atlas standards.

Isn't it illegal as well?

Enjoy the FBI knocking on your door for a little chat....
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« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2016, 03:01:24 PM »

Yes. He has no business being President.

I don't think you understand how a democracy is supposed to work.

He's clearly unfit to have control of the nuclear codes or authority on highly sensitive military decisions. This isn't about democracy, it's about keeping the country from being thrown into chaos. If Trump was President, it would be likely that the military would have to step in to keep him from bombing countries for trivial reasons.
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« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »

Jesus Christ, the fact that this many posters would support an entirely undemocratic action just because they disagree with the policies of the President. Y'all are some closet Fascists.

It's not about the damn policies, it's about the fact that he is unstable. Not understand why this country cannot use nuclear weapons is not a policy, it is irrational thinking.
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« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2016, 03:08:51 PM »

Absolutely not. Trump becoming president would be a hug threat to America, but I'm not about to support abandoning democracy just to protest him.
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« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2016, 03:11:49 PM »

There are sufficient constitutional mechanisms (declared incapacity, impeachment) to remove Trump if he goes Marcos.

You guys expect the military would just nicely relinquish the power once the coup was conducted? Yeah, a lot of folks thought so thorough history.
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« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2016, 03:12:40 PM »
« Edited: August 04, 2016, 03:21:04 PM by Seriously? »

Jesus Christ, the fact that this many posters would support an entirely undemocratic action just because they disagree with the policies of the President. Y'all are some closet Fascists.

It's not about the damn policies, it's about the fact that he is unstable. Not understand why this country cannot use nuclear weapons is not a policy, it is irrational thinking.
1) Assuming Trump is unstable, which he is far from from both a legal and medical standpoint, there's a constitutional way to handle medical incapacity. It's called the 25th Amendment. Nowhere in that amendment does it allow for a third-world style military coup.
2) As the 25th amendment requires a declaration from the executive branch, you're not going to get a sitting President declared mentally incompetent. The shadow cabinet would be running things.
3) The alternative would be impeachment followed by a trial with a conviction on the charges by the Senate.
4) Any talks of a military coup of a duly elected President is un-American. No matter how much you despise him (or her). I would never advocate that for Hillary Clinton, ever.
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