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« on: August 04, 2016, 03:44:56 PM »

Melania Trump: Donald Trump's Wife Responds to Questions About Immigration Status Upon Entering US
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Nice try DNC media. Now go on your predictable "gotcha" witch hunt.

Do you have a source or are we supposed to just trust you because of your sterling reputation for truthiness on this forum?
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 03:54:04 PM »

Melania Trump: Donald Trump's Wife Responds to Questions About Immigration Status Upon Entering US
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Nice try DNC media. Now go on your predictable "gotcha" witch hunt.

Do you have a source or are we supposed to just trust you because of your sterling reputation for truthiness on this forum?
Of course. Melania Trump herself.

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Thanks.  I'm going back to ignoring your posts.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 07:15:22 PM »

She also didn't get paid for the nude photos from 1995.

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https://de.usembassy.gov/unpaid-work-is-work-make-sure-you-have-the-correct-visa/

Not really sure how much clearer the US government can make that.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2016, 07:36:44 PM »

She also didn't get paid for the nude photos from 1995.

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https://de.usembassy.gov/unpaid-work-is-work-make-sure-you-have-the-correct-visa/

Not really sure how much clearer the US government can make that.

From the yahoo link:

"U.S. law allows a person to use a visitor visa to conduct temporary business for a foreign company or explore a future career opportunities such as visiting modeling agencies or meeting with potential clients.

Zampolli, who didn't book the shoot, said the photos, which appeared in the French magazine Max, were likely a "free shoot to build the book of the model. She needed to get her tear sheets."

So basically you just quoted someone who has no knowledge of the situation and is speculating.  And taking nude pictures is not "visiting a modeling agency or meeting with potential clients".  You must have some interesting career days at your school if you think that is the way people meet potential clients.  You go to a person's place of business and you participate in the production of something of economic value... bad news son... You just did work.

US government again...

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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2016, 08:07:03 PM »

She also didn't get paid for the nude photos from 1995.

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https://de.usembassy.gov/unpaid-work-is-work-make-sure-you-have-the-correct-visa/

Not really sure how much clearer the US government can make that.

From the yahoo link:

"U.S. law allows a person to use a visitor visa to conduct temporary business for a foreign company or explore a future career opportunities such as visiting modeling agencies or meeting with potential clients.

Zampolli, who didn't book the shoot, said the photos, which appeared in the French magazine Max, were likely a "free shoot to build the book of the model. She needed to get her tear sheets."

So basically you just quoted someone who has no knowledge of the situation and is speculating.  And taking nude pictures is not "visiting a modeling agency or meeting with potential clients".  You must have some interesting career days at your school if you think that is the way people meet potential clients.  You go to a person's place of business and you participate in the production of something of economic value... bad news son... You just did work.

US government again...

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Oh yes -- the man who sponsored her for a work Visa...

Oh yes, the man who said H1B visa.  What type of H1B visa requires you to leave the country every six months?  So is your wonderful source lying or is Melania lying.

Once again, the questions were raised because of her own comment, that she traveled back to her home country every 6 months in order to be legal in the US. It is very difficult, if at all possible, to think up a situation where that could have been the case if she worked in the US in the meantime. If she was legally employed she, almost certainly, did not have to travel for immigration reasons. The only legal immigration-related reason for her to travel out would have been if she was in the US for non-work reasons, living from her savings and/or payments from her non-US employer. In that case, yes, having been admitted to the US for 6 months she could have traveled outside and returned for a new six-month period. If she was working in the US she would have been in violation of her status while in the US and commiting immigration fraud while re-entering the US.

The problem is Atlas is populated by sheltered suburban American white kids.  I know several immigrants and I've spoken to them about the immigration process.  I too cannot think of what kind of legitimate work visa requires leaving the United States every six months as Melania herself described quite emphatically.

The other thing is immigrants who come here the right way don't make mistakes about what they did.  It is an arduous process that 100% of them in my experience hired an immigration attorney to help them with.  This isn't like asking someone what they had on their pizza two months ago.  I've sat through enough immigration rants that I know they remember that sh-t.

I've got some investigators in Slovenia that are looking into this. Their finding some really SHOCKING things. THEY can't believe what they're finding.

Sad thing is this could all be cleared up easily... if Melania just showed us her papers.
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2016, 08:36:40 PM »

But I cannot think of a situation where traveling abroad regularly would have been required (at most, one has to travel abroad for a one-time visa status adjustment).

Yeah I know of one person who had to leave the country for some visa issue.  They didn't have to go to freakin' Slovenia though.  They just had to poke their nose over the border and do whatever paperwork at a US Consulate "overseas".  I think they took a day trip by car up to Canada.  I've heard all kinds of tales of quirky visa issues and Rube Goldberg remedies but flying to Solovenia every six months is a new one for me... especially on this H1B visa Redban is swearing she had.  Who in their right mind would hire someone on an H1B visa that needed to go to Slovenia every six months?  I mean all the people I know who have H1B visas have graduate degrees and work in critical jobs that are woefully under supplied.  These employers can't just let these guys bolt every six months.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 10:37:27 AM »

But I cannot think of a situation where traveling abroad regularly would have been required (at most, one has to travel abroad for a one-time visa status adjustment).

Yeah I know of one person who had to leave the country for some visa issue.  They didn't have to go to freakin' Slovenia though.  They just had to poke their nose over the border and do whatever paperwork at a US Consulate "overseas".  I think they took a day trip by car up to Canada.  I've heard all kinds of tales of quirky visa issues and Rube Goldberg remedies but flying to Solovenia every six months is a new one for me... especially on this H1B visa Redban is swearing she had.  Who in their right mind would hire someone on an H1B visa that needed to go to Slovenia every six months?  I mean all the people I know who have H1B visas have graduate degrees and work in critical jobs that are woefully under supplied.  These employers can't just let these guys bolt every six months.
You do realize elite models travel all over the world for work, right? Paris, Milan, New York, etc. all have their own versions of fashion week.

WTF does that have to do with anything?  If my boss regularly sends me to Paris and Milan for work that doesn't give me carte blanche to bolt and hang out in Slovenia every six months.  Where do you work, man?

And more importantly she said she had to leave every six months for immigration reasons.


Look up the definition of analogy.  H1B visa was brought up by Redban and his wonderful "source".  It isn't an "analogy".  If you have a problem with it take it up with him.  The fact of the matter is H1B visa holders are not required to go to Slovenia every six months for immigration purposes.  Either Melania is lying or Redban's infallible source is lying.  I have nothing to do with that.

She's white so being an illegal immigrant wouldn't be a problem for Trumpers.

But I agree, pursue it hard and if she is illegal grab her and deport her during the campaign. Headline: "Hypocrite: Trump Harbors Illegal Immigrant".

She's a US citizen now.

Lol.  That's not the way the law works.  The Politico article said if it is determined that she lied she can be stripped of her US citizenship.

My god.  Think of what you are advocating.  You are saying if someone can lie and get away with it long enough then they get awarded US citizenship and there is nothing wrong with that.  Nice set of values on you there, pal.

This one to me is ehhhh...I wouldn't pursue it much.

I'm sure Dreamers that were brought here when they were two years old are thinking the same thing.  Careful, a little white suburbanite tendency is showing.

This is not something for Hillary to dirty her hands with but other distant parts of the apparatus should definitely do their part to find out what is going on with this apparent bit of hypocrisy.
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