Hillary to Police: Don't Endorse Me

[Seriously?]

Via the Hill

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Link to source: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290586-police-union-clinton-snubbed-us

With that said, is snubbing the 300,000+ members of law enforcement and their families an expedient political move?

For the record, this same union -- the Fraternal Order of the Police -- endorsed Bill Clinton in 1996.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/09/16/us/fraternal-order-of-police-to-endorse-clinton.html

[Maxwell]

I don't care who law enforcement endorses. In fact, in my town of Tulsa in particular, whoever law enforcement endorses is a huge deterrent for me.

[Angel of Death]

Not seeking one's endorsement=snubbing. Right.

[Lief 🗽]

Good. Police unions are disgusting and should be crushed whenever and wherever possible.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Good. Police unions are disgusting and should be crushed whenever and wherever possible.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Good. Police unions are disgusting and should be crushed whenever and wherever possible.

[Xing]

Seriously used smear! ... It's not very effective.

[Devout Centrist]

Not public sector unions! God knows what society would do without them.

[Mehmentum]

Who care.

[Joe Republic]

These poll options provide a fascinating insight into why white racists conservatives just don't understand the BLM's core message.  Or, more likely, he's just not taking himself Seriously?

[OwlRhetoric]

Lol, BLM. Doe she agree with their newly listed demands, including reparations for slavery? They will have to pry it from our dead white hands.

[Seriously?]

These poll options provide a fascinating insight into why white racists conservatives just don't understand the BLM's core message.  Or, more likely, he's just not taking himself Seriously?

Hardly. I designed the poll for the extreme views on both sides of the aisle and the middle ground.

By not seeking the police endorsement Hillary! is making a binary choice here that her liberal constituency (BLM, etc) is more important than votes from the police that protects them.

It's a perfectly acceptable choice to make, but a sad one, especially in the light that her husband snared the cop union's endorsement 20 years ago.

[Bojack Horseman]

Big, big mistake if this is true. That was one of the best things about the DNC was all the police chiefs endorsing Hillary. This was supposed to be fight back against the narrative of the Republicans that Democrats are celebrating the killings of police. BLM frankly has a good cause, but the ways they go about it are very counter-productive.

[Joe Republic]

These poll options provide a fascinating insight into why white racists conservatives just don't understand the BLM's core message.  Or, more likely, he's just not taking himself Seriously?

Hardly. I designed the poll for the extreme views on both sides of the aisle and the middle ground.

Which option represents the "middle ground"?

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I think it's always been a foregone conclusion that law enforcement will vote heavily for Trump, possibly even more so than the military.  Do you expect Trump to court the Sierra Club for their endorsement?

Only fraction of active-duty military personnel would vote for Trump. They correctly see him, like Clinton, as a chickenhawk who will send them into more wars.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

Good. Police uUnions are disgusting and should be crushed whenever and wherever possible.

Guys, I fixed this for you.

[Pyro]

I have no problem with this.

[Santander]

How can people call themselves pro-labor and pro-worker while disparaging police unions? Policing is a thankless profession that is essential to civil society and their natural home, in my opinion, is the Democratic Party. It is a mistake to push them away.

[Santander]

How can people call themselves pro-labor and pro-worker while disparaging police unions? Policing is a thankless profession that is essential to civil society and their natural home, in my opinion, is the Democratic Party. It is a mistake to push them away.

All of this is true, but it doesn't oblige me to defend the actions of a few racist idiots.  It feels like there's no middle ground whatsoever on this issue.  It seems that about 10-20% of police officers are regularly doing racist/inappropriate things, while the other 80-90% are just decent people who want to keep their communities safe.  Can't anyone take a step back and distinguish this? 

Police and police unions should not be exempt from scrutiny or criticism. In fact, because of their position of public trust and authority, police should be subject to more scrutiny than the average public sector worker, if anything. I just believe that actively shunning police endorsements is divisive and only fans the flames of racial tension.

[Averroës Nix]

How can people call themselves pro-labor and pro-worker while disparaging police unions? Policing is a thankless profession that is essential to civil society and their natural home, in my opinion, is the Democratic Party. It is a mistake to push them away.

In what way is policing "thankless"? If you want to hear about someone who performs work that is vital to our way of life and who is rarely publicly acknowledged, talk to a construction worker. Talk to a logger. Talk to a farmer. Talk to someone who works on a fishing boat.

Police have lower rates of work-related mortality than many other active, blue-collar professions and receive far more public acclaim. No one campaigns on promising to "protect our loggers." No one thanks construction workers for their service. People who don't know people with these jobs rarely even think about the fact that there are people out there doing them every day.

Yet we rely on them. We expect for them to do their jobs without needlessly killing people, through either negligence or malice. And we would not tolerate a union that dismissed deaths caused by shoddy work as unavoidable collateral damage for which no one should be held responsible.

[Flake]

1. Black Lives Matter is a legitimate movement which is attempting to end the injustice of police brutality (along with many other issues that primarily affect the black/brown community), which primarily affect brown folks much, much, much more than white people.
2. Most police are good people who really just want to protect their communities, however there are many who are corrupted by their power and think only of themselves, not the communities they serve.

Black Lives Matter and police unions could really work together to rid police forces of the corrupt and violent officers, BLM would achieve an important goal of theirs (to drastically reduce unnecessary police brutality), and police would rid themselves of the worst members of their force that had no interest in serving their community.

[OwlRhetoric]

Yes, perfectly legit movement. It's not like they've openly chanted for killing and frying cops before, after all. It should be a much bigger deal that the Dems are giving a national platform to these racial anarchists.

https://youtu.be/05qQDD14r9w

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Somewhat off-topic, but 'Hillary!' might be the worst nickname for a candidate I've seen on this forum. Ever. It was funny and relevant for ¿Yeb? because that was literally his logo. But trying to use the nickname for Clinton as well robs it of all context and the entire reason why Jeb was even called that so constantly.

[DrScholl]

It's up to a candidate whether or not they want to seek a particular endorsement. It seems silly to get upset that a candidate did not ask you for an endorsement.

[Joe Republic]

Somewhat off-topic, but 'Hillary!' might be the worst nickname for a candidate I've seen on this forum. Ever. It was funny and relevant for ¿Yeb? because that was literally his logo. But trying to use the nickname for Clinton as well robs it of all context and the entire reason why Jeb was even called that so constantly.

You mean to say that Seriously? has a strange habit of welding punctuation onto words that shouldn't really have them?