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« on: August 08, 2016, 01:21:19 PM »

This will be the new thread for the upcoming New York City mayoral election, 2017. The primaries will be held in September 2017 and the general election in November 2017. Already, 1 Republican has announced that he would run against Mayor Bill de Blasio, who was seen as a progressive hero next to Elizabeth Warren:

Real estate developer Paul Massey. He could be formidable. Handsome, rich, centrist Republican. He could play well in the outerboroughs (Queens, Brooklyn).

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/08/developer-paul-massey-will-run-for-mayor-in-2017.html

Another "Republican" that could run and make inroads with African Americans and Latinos is legendary Harlem, Manhattan reverend Calvin Butts. Butts could do well with business Republicans.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/19/harlem-pastor-considering-run-for-mayor/

For the Democrats, former HUD Secretary and current Budget Director Shaun Donovan may be challenging De Blasio in the Democratic primary:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/shaun-donovan-new-york-mayor-226778

Other Democrats that could run include former City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, City Comptroller Scott Stringer, and Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, along with Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz and Public Advocate Letitia James.

http://observer.com/2016/06/anti-de-blasio-poll-stringer-could-beat-mayor-in-democratic-primary-matchup/
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 02:15:42 PM »


Massey sees himself like Mike Bloomberg. Socially liberal, fiscally conservative. He's a centrist, I suppose. However, Staten Island conservatives are socially conservative. I don't know if he'll do well. He's just like Joe Lhota, the 2013 GOP nominee that lost to De Blasio. He may be more appealing than Lhota, however.
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« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2016, 10:10:44 PM »

Other Democrats that could run include former City Council Speaker Christine Quinn

Isn't she too busy being Bloomberg's butler these days? Its because of her he got a third term in 2009 which he didn't deserve. She ain't going nowhere this time either.


Uh, if he's the best we've got, I'm sticking with di Blasio. I'm still mad he defeated Eliot Spitzer last time.

Come on Dov Hikind, this is your chance!

Dov Hikind is the worst the Jewish-American community has to offer.  The man is an absolute disgrace.

Explain. To me, he's tough, bold.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2016, 09:53:28 AM »

Dov Hikind is the worst the Jewish-American community has to offer.  The man is an absolute disgrace.

Somehow I doubt that.

I was being semi-sarcastic when I said he should run but calling him the Jewish Al Sharpton is harsh.

I mean ignoring his general bigotry, endorsement of Trump, support for people who commit hate crimes against Muslims, the fact that he dressed up in blackface for a party, has said gay marriage will lead to "incest and beastality," his corruption (pretty sure he was actually indicted at one point), and his support for racial profiling, there's also the fact that hid evidence of over 1,000 cases of sexual abuse at orthodox Yeshivas in NYC.

Not everyone has to agree with gay marriage.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2016, 12:43:24 PM »

Mayor De Blasio could face a tough primary challenge from Brooklyn Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, who's a pretty good congressman and is seen as the "Barack Obama/Cory Booker" of New York.

The NYPD still has Eric Garner's killer, the police officer Daniel Pantaleo of Staten Island on the payroll. De Blasio could lose some black and Latino support for that if Pantaleo is not off the police force by September 2017. The primary is a year from now.

If Jeffries runs, this could be a significant problem that De Blasio faces. That cop should be in jail, for choking Garner like that. However, Staten Island is pro-cop, so it can hurt De Blasio or Jeffries in Staten Island.

http://www.amny.com/news/nypd-cop-in-eric-garner-s-death-earns-overtime-pay-hakeem-jeffries-calls-for-probe-1.12315714

However, who would Staten Island Democrats vote for in a primary between De Blasio and Jeffries? De Blasio barely won Staten Island in the 2013 primary against Bill Thompson and Christine Quinn.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2016, 01:46:23 PM »

Would love for Erica Garner (daughter of Eric who previously contemplated a run for Dan Donovan's seat and was a vocal Sanders supporter in the primary) to run a protest campaign in the primary to push De Blasio to the left on police issues/make sure he doesn't give in the police union.

Eh..she'd be okay I guess, but her campaign could cause racial unrest in NYC. He'd take a lot of black and Latino votes away from him. I don't think NYC can afford that. Both the police and the Black Lives Matter protesters needs to get their act together.
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2016, 10:04:56 PM »

I mean ignoring his general bigotry, endorsement of Trump, support for people who commit hate crimes against Muslims, the fact that he dressed up in blackface for a party, has said gay marriage will lead to "incest and beastality," his corruption (pretty sure he was actually indicted at one point), and his support for racial profiling, there's also the fact that hid evidence of over 1,000 cases of sexual abuse at orthodox Yeshivas in NYC.

Wow. That is shocking to say the least.

He must be the only Democrat in the country to have endorsed Trump.

Don't worry, we got Lieberman coming too.

Lieberman has endorsed Hillary Clinton, as befitting a neocon of his stripe.

Hikind's only a Democrat because (A) of the registration of his district, and (B) because of the permanent majority NY's Democrats enjoy in the NY State Assembly.  Why they don't strip him of his seniority and committee assignments is beyond me, and they may do that next year. 

There's no way Hikind could get the Democratic nomination for Mayor, absent a widely split Democratic Primary.  He'd be the Jewish Mario Procaccino if he were the Democratic nominee.  If he were a candidate of, say, New York's Independence Party and were well funded, he might win in a crowded field, but that's not likely, either.  The real issue is how long the Democratic Party will put up with Hikind.

I'm an Independent. I like Hikind. I don't always agree with him, but he's tough on some issues. If Hikind ran for mayor as a Democrat to challenge De Blasio, he'd probably get 20% + of the Jewish vote in the outer-boroughs. He'd carry his area, though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2016, 12:16:31 PM »

Dov Hikind would get my support for Mayor over almost any candidate. Ray Kelly, David Greenfield and Christine Quinn would be the only candidates I'd consider over him.

What exactly do you like about him? He's an absolutely vile racist and gay-hater.

Eh..I like that he's tough. He fights for his constituents in Boro Park, Midwood.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2016, 12:17:49 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2016, 12:21:04 PM by bronz4141 »

My only priority at this point is getting the vile, anti-Democratic De Blasio out of office, so I'm hoping for someone like Stringer or Jeffries to jump in. Not ideal candidates for me, but strong chance of unseating Billy Boy.

The only candidates that could beat De Blasio in a primary is Christine Quinn or Scott Stringer. They can appeal to the outerborough voters in Queens, Staten Island. Queens assemblyman Andrew Hevesi, the son of former corrupt Comptroller Alan Hevesi, could win a primary as well.

If De Blasio wins reelection, he may want to run for Governor in 2018 or 2022. He won't do a Bloomberg and force a third term. He may want to be president as well, down the line.
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2016, 10:48:53 PM »

Right now I'm watching CNN. Christine Quinn is a good Democratic Party attack dog. She could make it a competitive race against De Blasio if she ran again. She could win Queens, Staten Island, and maybe even Brooklyn from De Blasio.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2016, 10:54:28 PM »

John Catsimatidis is likely to run for Mayor against Bill de Blasio in 2017, but as a Republican. If things go awry, Cats could be a contender. He has a lot of charm.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/catsimatidis-run-mayor-de-blasio-2017-article-1.2872287
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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2016, 09:08:10 PM »
« Edited: November 16, 2016, 09:17:00 PM by bronz4141 »

A new poll shows that De Blasio would beat Christine Quinn, Scott Stringer, and Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz, Jr. in a hypothetical Democratic primary. I think Quinn may run again. She could give him a challenge. Quinn leads with white voters with 27%. She would beat him in Staten Island and Queens.

Scott Stringer would win Staten Island 42%-27% over De Blasio in Staten Island. De Blasio is really unpopular on the Island. It went for President-elect Trump 57%-40%.

https://poll.qu.edu/new-york-city/release-detail?ReleaseID=2402
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2016, 04:46:00 PM »

I don't know why De Blasio would be bad or unpopular, but I'm on the Dov train for sure!

Dov could appeal to some conservative black voters in Brooklyn and Queens. De Blasio should have some primary challengers. The only Republican that could beat De Blasio is Cats or Eric Ulrich, who can appeal to outerborough ethnics.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2016, 10:17:23 AM »


I like him. He's a white outer-borough ethnic. He may win some white moderates. What do you have against him?

http://www.qchron.com/editions/north/avella-considering-run-for-mayor/article_a55e945e-acf6-11e6-a55d-c323ccc5d277.html
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2016, 10:29:44 PM »

Ohio Gov. John Kasich is endorsing and fundraising for Queens City Councilman Eric Ulrich, who seems likely to run for Mayor in NYC. If Ulrich runs, does the NYC Republicans keep his seat red? They are only 3 NYC Republicans in the City Council (Matteo, Borelli, and Ulrich). Borelli is a Trumpite and probably wanted to serve in Trump's administration, Ulrich wants to be mayor, and Matteo probably wants to be mayor as well someday, maybe in 2017.

http://observer.com/2016/12/john-kasich-fundraises-for-queens-councilmans-mayoral-run/
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2016, 07:44:41 PM »


I like Tony Avella. He's tough, brash, and no nonsense, but appeals to outerborough ethnics, especially the Giuliani Democrats.

Avella, Albanese and Dietl could make things interesting in outerborough ethnic areas like Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, Forest Hills, Queens, and Riverdale, Bronx. Yes, the black and Latino base in Central Brooklyn, Manhattan, and North Shore, Staten Island may help him win reelection, but his fundraising scandal may prove badly for him.

Christine Quinn and Scott Stringer may run against de Blasio. If that happens, then it would be Tossup.



http://nypost.com/2016/11/17/sal-albanese-hopes-to-run-for-mayor-for-the-fourth-time/

http://nypost.com/2016/12/14/bo-dietl-to-de-blasio-im-running-right-against-you-head-to-head/
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2016, 11:18:37 PM »

Avella officially announced today. He's a outerborough white guy.

http://www.wnyc.org/story/avella-announces-mayoral-bid-front-symbolic-queens-site/

http://observer.com/2016/12/angry-white-guy-from-queens-now-running-to-oust-nyc-mayor-bill-de-blasio/
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2016, 10:59:16 PM »

I am not from New York, I don't ever want to be, but Bo Dietl is by far the best man for the office of Mayor.

There's a lot of conservative areas in NYC, dude. Throgs Neck, Whitestone, Bay Ridge, Staten Island. Other than that, if Dietl can appeal to black and Latino voters, he could make it competitive.
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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2016, 09:07:35 PM »

What are De Blasio's current approval ratings?

An NY1/Baruch College poll shows De Blasio has a 51 percent approval rating and a 36 percent disapproval rating, but he is very unpopular with white voters. (The Staten Island, Queens, City Island, Bronx white ethnics, and some disillusioned white liberal base voters.)

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/bill-de-blasio-trump-new-york-214513

http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2016/12/12/poll-finds-slim-majority-of-new-yorkers-approve-of-mayor-as-he-positions-himself-against-trump-heading-into-election-year.html
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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2016, 10:39:02 AM »

City Comptroller Scott Stringer may run for mayor if De Blasio is indicted, the New York Post reports. Stringer could attract conservative Jews in Forest Hills, Queens, Bensonhurst, Brooklyn, etc. He'd have to attract black voters.


http://nypost.com/2016/12/21/stringer-says-hell-run-for-mayor-if-feds-indict-de-blasio/
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2017, 09:21:06 PM »

I don't think Hillary Clinton will run for New York City mayor in 2017. Michael Bloomberg wanted her to run in 2013 after she left as Secretary of State. She may run for governor in 2018 if Cuomo is indicted for something. Her electoral political career is over, but she'll still be influential in the Democratic Party.

Ulrich is a competitive GOP candidate, if he runs. He could win Queens from De Blasio, if De Blasio is in trouble this year. His base, Howard Beach, Breezy Point, etc. did not turn out in 2013 because they were not enthused with Joe Lhota, the former Giuliani protege. Another Republican that could make it competitive is Paul Massey or Ray Kelly, the former NYPD commissioner. He'd win Queens, Staten Island, and even make Brooklyn competitive if De Blasio's poll numbers are declining. However, De Blasio is still favored to win reelection.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3oN932tl5I
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bik4nlHRN7c
(These are videos I found of Howard Beach, Queens, for some who don't know of the Republican stronghold).

https://www.k2intelligence.com/en/people/professionals/Kelly-W-Raymond
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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2017, 08:23:22 PM »

So the NY Post and all the forum Republicans are endorsing her?  That tells you all you need to know about where she stands politically.

Stop it. She is a liberal. You make it sound like she is a hardcore conservative.
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« Reply #22 on: January 13, 2017, 09:53:53 PM »

GOP mayoral candidate Paul Massey looks like he may have the most money out of the GOP field (next to Catsimidatis if he runs for mayor). That could potentially scare off Eric Ulrich from running for mayor in 2017. However, Ulrich has some of the NY GOP establishment behind him (he has 2013 mayoral nominee Joe Lhota's support). However, Lhota couldn't even inspire Republicans to turn out enough to vote for him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/gop-mayoral-hopeful-paul-massey-raises-1-6m-months-article-1.2945921

http://nypost.com/2017/01/05/paul-masseys-mayoral-bid-backed-by-independence-party/
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 03:11:58 PM »

Its funny that Republicans hate Hillary enough that they would in theory support De Blasio if she ran against him in a two way race.

Hillary lost Staten Island to Trump in the presidential, but she would beat De Blasio on the Island in 2017. De Blasio's management skills probably doesn't fit S.I.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 03:16:41 PM »

Scott Stringer, Hillary Clinton, Christine Quinn, Ruben Diaz, Jr. would beat him outright in Staten Island.
 
Clinton, Stringer, and Quinn would do well with the white Roman Catholic Italian and Irish voters there.

Diaz, Avella and Jeffries would win S.I. as well.

S.I. is seen as "too white and too conservative", but minorities like Jeffries and Diaz, Jr. would do well there. Interesting.

Staten Island is a borough to watch for this year in 2017.
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