Trouble in Kansas for Trump?

[ericpolitico]

http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/trump-losing-ground-in-kansas?utm_content=buffer4ddc4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Kansas is the latest traditionally Republican state where the party's presidential nominee Donald Trump has lost ground. State has not voted for a Democrat since Lyndon Johnson
According to a poll conducted for KSN-TV, Trump would get 44 percent of the vote compared to 39 percent for Hillary Clinton. That's 3 points down from what Trump received in KSN's July poll and Clinton was up 3 points.


Mitt Romney won the state in 2012 with almost 60 percent of the vote, while Barack Obama got 38 percent.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

lol ask ex Governor Brownback and Senator Orman about these polls.

[Spark]

Nope, they are meaningless junk polls.

[ElectionsGuy]

Kansas will be 'trouble' for Trump until election day and he wins decisively.

[Phony Moderate]

There's a whole sub-board for this...

[Maxwell]

Trump will win Kansas, but he's a terrible fit for their political culture. Like Utah, Kansas will be surprisingly close.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

KS, GA, AZ, NC, FL and NC are bonuses for Clinton.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Trump will win Kansas, but he's a terrible fit for their political culture. Like Utah, Kansas will be surprisingly close.

Surprisingly close, as in, 55%-40%, still doesn't really make much of a difference in the end result.

[Maxwell]

Trump will win Kansas, but he's a terrible fit for their political culture. Like Utah, Kansas will be surprisingly close.

Surprisingly close, as in, 55%-40%, still doesn't really make much of a difference in the end result.

correct. Either that or like 54-41 or 53-42.

[Ebsy]

The swing map will be fun.

[IceSpear]

lol ask ex Governor Brownback and Senator Orman about these polls.

Would Brownback tell us about how he won by a measly 4 points and was held under 50% in a massive Republican wave in a crimson red state? I'd sure be impressed by that tale.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Massive Gender gap last time, Romney won white men in KS by 74-24, but white women by only 54-43. If Trump's collapse continues, Hillary will probably carry females in the state, though not KS overall.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

lol ask ex Governor Brownback and Senator Orman about these polls.

Would Brownback tell us about how he won by a measly 4 points and was held under 50% in a massive Republican wave in a crimson red state? I'd sure be impressed by that tale.

By being Sam Brownback.

[Xing]

Trump will win Kansas, but the fact that he's in any apparent trouble shows how little hope he has of winning actual swing states.

[The Arizonan]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

[Heisenberg]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

[The Arizonan]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

[Dr. Arch]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

Wasn't Bernie a registered Democrat for a good part of the primary? If so, that technically removes VT from this status.

[The Arizonan]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

He switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

Wasn't Bernie a registered Democrat for a good part of the primary? If so, that technically removes VT from this status.

Bernie Sanders switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

[Dr. Arch]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

He switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

Wasn't Bernie a registered Democrat for a good part of the primary? If so, that technically removes VT from this status.

Bernie Sanders switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

But technically...

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

It is very difficult to poll Western Kansas. And it comes in last on election day as well. On election day 2014, Gingrich pointed this out when there was talk of Orman possibly winning since the initial returns looked good, but the map was pretty clear on the matter (Western Kansas was pretty much empty). All of those counties are tiny, but there is a whole Congressional district there and one that is typically 70% Republican.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

He switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

Wasn't Bernie a registered Democrat for a good part of the primary? If so, that technically removes VT from this status.

Bernie Sanders switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

But technically...

I think Sanders said he'd run as a Democrat in 2018, which would make Kansas the only one.

[Heisenberg]

Why is it that Kansas is such a Republican state? Even throughout its history as a state, it has been consistently Republican and it's one of two states that has never had two Democratic senators simultaneously.

What's the other state? Does Vermont count on the technicality of Independents not officially being Democrats?

He switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

Yes, I'm talking about Vermont. Pat Leahy is the only Democrat elected to the Senate from Vermont. Bernie Sanders was elected as an Independent.

Wasn't Bernie a registered Democrat for a good part of the primary? If so, that technically removes VT from this status.

Bernie Sanders switched back to Independent, so I'm tempted to keep Vermont on the list.

But technically...

I think Sanders said he'd run as a Democrat in 2018, which would make Kansas the only one.

Didn't Sanders change his mind and say he'd run as an Independent?

[Adam Griffin]

^^^ Sanders earns the Democratic nomination each time he runs for Congress by running in their primary. He actually files to run in the Democratic primary each time, is on the Democratic Party primary ballot, and then proceeds to switch to independent as soon as the primary is over. Electoral fusion is a thing in VT, so he runs as an independent with the endorsement of the Democratic Party.

He actually lost the nomination in terms of votes by 91%-6% in 2000 according to Wikipedia (), but still won the general and apparently was endorsed by the party anyway, with his primary opponent getting just a few percent and running as a candidate for "Organic Life".

He also lost the primary vote in 2004 but was still endorsed by the party. He apparently "declined" the party's nomination in 2006 for Senate despite winning it.

[VPH]

Trump won't lose Kansas. Too ancestrally and deeply Republican for that. That being said, Hillary will finish closer than most Democrats, and she could flip a few counties including Shawnee (Topeka), Riley (Manhattan, home of K-State), Johnson (rich KC suburbs), Lyon (Emporia, but this working class county is a bit of a wildcard. Tends to be moderate and has a high Hispanic population for E. KS, but also seems favorable for Trump)