Valls: The Burkini is incompatible with French values

[Antonio the Sixth]

I live in Zell am See, which is a MAGNET for Arabs from the Gulf (thanks, Zell am See tourism department).

Last year, there were 1 million visits from the Arabs, many of them also from very conservative places like Saudi Arabia.

So, I'm pretty used already seeing them on the streets around here. The summer months are extremely horrible (but not just because of the veiled Arabs, but also because of the annoying Germans and the Dutch who crowd the streets. The last weeks were terrible on the road, especially when it's raining. Traffic. Traffic. TRAFFIC !).

ITT: casual racism.

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I wonder about the situation of Sikhs in France. Are their turbans considered a religious or ethnic clothes?

[Tender Branson]

I live in Zell am See, which is a MAGNET for Arabs from the Gulf (thanks, Zell am See tourism department).

Last year, there were 1 million visits from the Arabs, many of them also from very conservative places like Saudi Arabia.

So, I'm pretty used already seeing them on the streets around here. The summer months are extremely horrible (but not just because of the veiled Arabs, but also because of the annoying Germans and the Dutch who crowd the streets. The last weeks were terrible on the road, especially when it's raining. Traffic. Traffic. TRAFFIC !).

ITT: casual racism.

Racist against the Arabs, the Germans, the Dutch ?



More like anti-tourist. I'm just annoyed at the swamp of tourists in the area right now. For a 5-minute drive in April you now wait 20-30 minutes in the city to get to your destination because of these stupid tourists. Dutch and German drivers (especially old ones) who drive 30 miles per hour on a 50 mph road ! Arab tourists are the worst: most of them don't know what a STOP sign means. Recently, a driver crashed into a train here and his family in the car got badly hurt because he didn't know the huge red STOP sign. One Arab driver overtook cars in the Zell am See tunnel ! Another drove along with his car at the pedestrian lakeside promenade !!!

[Tender Branson]

FTR:

If I walk from work to the supermarket during my lunch break, I probably bump into 20 veiled Arab tourist women on the way.

I don't mind them, I'm really used to them already, but I simply don't understand how they can stand being fully veiled when it has 30°C outside (100°F) ...

I think I'd kill myself running around with these veils and thick clothes the whole day.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I wonder about the situation of Sikhs in France. Are their turbans considered a religious or ethnic clothes?

I'm not sure, but my guess is that it would be considered religious clothing, at least for the purpose of the 2004 law. So it would probably be banned in schools. I might be wrong though.

[Ebsy]

They're actually probably cooler in their coverings than you are in shorts and a t-shirt.

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FTR:

If I walk from work to the supermarket during my lunch break, I probably bump into 20 veiled Arab tourist women on the way.

I don't mind them, I'm really used to them already, but I simply don't understand how they can stand being fully veiled when it has 30°C outside (100°F) ...

I think I'd kill myself running around with these veils and thick clothes the whole day.

If they are Arab transplants, I doubt they'd be sweating too much at 30 degrees...

[Hnv1]

Shockingly the first time I saw one was in Europe, Arab women here go the beach with fashionable bikinis.
I'm not a fan on them but I can't see how this ban could be enforced

[swl]

In my opinion salafism and its symbols should be banned. French laws allows to ban dangerous ideologies, such as Nazism. It's telling that North African countries have been the most undertanding of France in this whole thing, in particular Algeria who experienced first hand what it is to have Salafi-jihadists killing tens of thousands because that were not Muslim enough.