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Hermit For Peace
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Junior Chimp
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« on: August 19, 2016, 06:39:09 AM »


I hate that word and as a female I would never be a part of any movement or organization that embraces it for any reason.

Very demeaning, IMO.
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Hermit For Peace
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2016, 03:00:43 PM »
« Edited: August 19, 2016, 03:02:40 PM by hermit »


I hate that word and as a female I would never be a part of any movement or organization that embraces it for any reason.

Very demeaning, IMO.

It's only demeaning because culture has made it so. If we reclaim it as our own, it can't be used over us. It's on par with not caring when the bully tries to make fun of you. "Ha ha, you're a neeeeerd." "Yeah, I am! So what?" Same thing, just a lot more cultural baggage.

I hate the word myself, but if Hillary does win, I agree that we will need to reclaim it to stop giving it power. There's nothing wrong with being female, and the proper name for a female of the Canis familiaris shouldn't be an insult just because it's the name for the female.

Back on topic: I agree with the author in that there will be a lot of people trying to blame everything on the fact that she's a woman. I hope we don't see it, but judging by what I've seen just during this campaign season, I'm pretty sure it's going to get a lot worse.

Sorry but I can't go there. To me it doesn't matter what people call Hillary under their breath, or in print or out loud. Doesn't make it so.

And I disagree that large numbers of people will blame things on the fact that Hillary is a female. What I believe is that when things start getting done in this country, people will change their opinion of having a female for a President.

Focusing on the positive is what works.



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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2016, 03:18:43 PM »


Yes sexism is out there, but to me it's an ignorant mindset, and the ones perpetuating that mindset aren't seeing clearly. The same goes for racism and homophobia and the like. People are ignorant and do and say ignorant things. But nobody has to follow anyone else down that path. We can all think for ourselves.

What is most important is to keep the focus on the positive thoughts, the positive mindset, the educated enlightened path. Over time, people's opinions change.

In Hillary's case, once people see how good a job she does, their opinions will evolve to match the reality they see. It's human nature.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2016, 07:12:25 PM »

We've already had that in the primary. Remember when there were female Bernie supporters who proclaimed that any woman voting for Hillary was just voting with her vagina?

Or when Gloria Friggin' Steinem proclaimed that young women supporting Bernie were only there for the boys?

Or when Madeleine Albright said that there's a special place in hell for women who don't support Clinton.

I didn't hear the first statement, but the last two I was appalled by when I heard them.

The first one isn't any better.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2016, 07:46:06 PM »

We've already had that in the primary. Remember when there were female Bernie supporters who proclaimed that any woman voting for Hillary was just voting with her vagina?

Or when Gloria Friggin' Steinem proclaimed that young women supporting Bernie were only there for the boys?

Or when Madeleine Albright said that there's a special place in hell for women who don't support Clinton.

What Albright actually said was "There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”  This has been a saying of hers for 25+ years.


You are right, that's what she said. Still, I don't like it. Much too negative and threatening sounding. There are much better ways to communicate a desire for people to vote for Hillary.

 
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hermit
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2016, 12:07:20 AM »
« Edited: August 20, 2016, 12:13:50 AM by hermit »

We've already had that in the primary. Remember when there were female Bernie supporters who proclaimed that any woman voting for Hillary was just voting with her vagina?

Or when Gloria Friggin' Steinem proclaimed that young women supporting Bernie were only there for the boys?

Or when Madeleine Albright said that there's a special place in hell for women who don't support Clinton.

What Albright actually said was "There’s a special place in hell for women who don’t help each other.”  This has been a saying of hers for 25+ years.


You are right, that's what she said. Still, I don't like it. Much too negative and threatening sounding. There are much better ways to communicate a desire for people to vote for Hillary.

 

Hillary Clinton came of age around 1970, just as the women's movement was starting to take off.  Both Steinem and Albright came of age about a decade earlier.  It goes without saying the 1950s-60s were not a pleasant period for women:  banks could refuse to issue credit cards to women, you could be fired from your job for being pregnant (and of course you couldn't legally get an abortion either), women could not attend Ivy League Schools and the dream of a woman president must have seemed impossible.  Young women today mostly cannot relate to such antiquated feminism, but I get where their perspective comes from.

I can relate to Hillary's era since she's only 2-3 years older than me. I was a card-carrying, bra-burning feminist who made lives miserable with all my ranting and raving about the women's libber stuff. I do realize that the younger females of today can't relate to that (just like I can't relate to generations before my time), but if it wasn't for me and Hillary and all the other females who did all that fighting, the younger ones wouldn't be enjoying the fruits of our labor today.

That's probably the biggest reason why I support Hillary so much....I can relate to where she's coming from, not to mention that she happens to represent my ideals and goals and thinking to a large degree.

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Hermit For Peace
hermit
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2016, 12:11:35 AM »

We've already had that in the primary. Remember when there were female Bernie supporters who proclaimed that any woman voting for Hillary was just voting with her vagina?

Or when Gloria Friggin' Steinem proclaimed that young women supporting Bernie were only there for the boys?

Or when Madeleine Albright said that there's a special place in hell for women who don't support Clinton.

I didn't hear the first statement, but the last two I was appalled by when I heard them.

The first one isn't any better.

Hermit, you so prove we need many many more women on Atlas.

Thank you for that. Smiley

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