Trump is one of the reasons why I didn't support Obama in the '08

[Intell]

Bump. My point was not that whites would not vote for Obama, but that having a black as the face of the party for 8 years would result in racial polarization. In retrospect, I was right. The GOP has now built a race-based majority and future elections depend solely on whites. Minorities will not need to be courted by anyone now because the GOP doesn't need us. America is Alabama now.

huh…? trump barely "won" and the minority share of the population will only keep goïng up. if anything, you should be drawing the opposite conclusion.

also cringe@ "a black"

lol.

[Sopranos Republican]

obama please drone

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I think this post alone is more evident of Beet's racism than anything the media has on Bannon ironically.

[Nym90]

I think there's a lot of truth to your analysis, Beet, but the conclusion that the solution is for the Democratic party to avoid nominating minority candidates is indeed racist by definition.

The racial polarization of American politics along black vs. white lines goes way beyond Obama. It's a trend that has been evolving since at least 1964, and actually more like the 1940's if you drill down further in the election results. And going further back American politics has always had nationalist elements and polarization by ethnicity.

And of course you can also look abroad and find similar themes in plenty of other countries, none of which have had black Presidents recently if ever.

The Democrats certainly need a more sustained and direct message to the concerns of white non-college educated voters but that's a completely separate issue from the race of our candidates/presidents.

[Beet]

I think there's a lot of truth to your analysis, Beet, but the conclusion that the solution is for the Democratic party to avoid nominating minority candidates is indeed racist by definition.

The racial polarization of American politics along black vs. white lines goes way beyond Obama. It's a trend that has been evolving since at least 1964, and actually more like the 1940's if you drill down further in the election results. And going further back American politics has always had nationalist elements and polarization by ethnicity.

And of course you can also look abroad and find similar themes in plenty of other countries, none of which have had black Presidents recently if ever.

The Democrats certainly need a more sustained and direct message to the concerns of white non-college educated voters but that's a completely separate issue from the race of our candidates/presidents.

It's not racist to acknowledge the impact of race. Black people were on the verge of a breakthrough in the GOP prior to Obama. In 2004, the percent of black delegates to the RNC reached an all-time high:



It subsequently plunged to record lows during the Obama years.

[LAKISYLVANIA]

It would have happened with or without Obama. The Democrats would have gone socially all way to the left, because it's a worldwide trend. I think that without Obama things would've looked worse right now because neither the left or the right will have liked Hillary Clinton and the field in 2016 would have probably be more polarized now.

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

That's one Hell of a bump.

[darklordoftech]

Couldn't it just as easily be argued that Hillary would result in sex/gender polarization?