1026 - The Freedom to Drink Act

[Goldwater]

Really, I'm not that concerned with the details at this point, just as long as you guys get rid of the dumb federal minimum drinking age of 21.

[Goldwater]

Fair enough, but would it be possible to still somehow limit how high each region can make the drinking age?

[Goldwater]

Look, I don't know how to words things. It would have been helpful if people would have pointed how I did it wrong and how to fix it back when this bill was being discussed in the Senate.

[Goldwater]

This bill as written does not reflect the current legal reality of the situation. So what do we want to try to do? Repeal the 1984 and set just a drinking age for those areas under federal jurisdiction and leave the regions to do what they want?   Put forward a single minimum age for the whole country?  Or, modify the 1984 bill to a different age?  (I honestly don't get the idea that we would take away highway funding for a region having a drinking age of 24. What is the logic of that?  ) Or, come up with an entirely new policy?

Not that I have a say anymore, but this one was closest to my original intent. First of all, I anted to eliminate any connection to highway funding, and second of all I thought the minimum age should be 18 instead of 21. After bring up this idea to some people privately, they suggested that going for regional rights would be the better approach for gaining broad support, which is why the weirdly worded bill ended up the way it did.

[Goldwater]

I am no longer an office holder, haven't had internet for two weeks, and yet I am still somehow the last person to post in this thread? WTF, people?

[Goldwater]

I am no longer an office holder, haven't had internet for two weeks, and yet I am still somehow the last person to post in this thread? WTF, people?

We have been focusing on electing a new speaker and trying to expell inactive Representatives.

I will open this up for a continued 48 hour debate period.

Ah, fair enough. I just thought I would come see what happened to my bill while I was gone, and was disappointed when I found out the answer was "absolutly nothing".

[Goldwater]

Seriously? I wrote this damn bill forever ago as a Senator, and now I will (hopefully) finally be invloved in the House vote?

[Goldwater]

I've always thought that a uniform age of 18 works well; in my own experience you have a year or so drinking in secret, and then by the time you're 18 you actually become more responsible and start going to pubs/having it with meals etc (I feel like I have no right to talk about licensing ages since I'm from the binge drinking capital of the World, combined with being a student)

Anyway what I argued for in the Senate many moons ago was for a federal minimum of 18, with allowances for raising the age to 21 if regions/states wished to (but wouldn't because 21 is a stupidly high age)

Yeah, I'm thinking that what this bill should be at this point to TBH. A drinking age of 16 just doesn't seem to be politically viable.

[Goldwater]

Really, if we are going to make 18 the lowest possible minimum age, I would prefer that to just be federal one, and allow each region to raise it up to 21 should they so desire.

[Goldwater]

NAY

[Goldwater]

So, what going on with this?

[Goldwater]

didn't this get solved in the Joint Session?

Did it? My mistake, I guess I missed that.

[Goldwater]

I was asking, rather than telling This bill has been like the Hyrda of Atlasia for the last 6 months

Well, you know, difficulty in interpreting text over the internet and all that.

[Goldwater]

I propose an amendment:

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Is everyone cool with this? Can we just lower the freaking drinking age now?

[Goldwater]

AYE