Is there any chance that Johnson could carry Utah?
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« on: August 21, 2016, 06:43:17 PM »

Considering the dislike of Trump by the Mormons and it not being a good fit for Hillary due to the usual reasons.
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2016, 06:49:24 PM »

Very very small chance about a 1-2% chance.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2016, 06:54:20 PM »

What if Johnson promises that his entire administration will be Utah Mormons?
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2016, 07:05:19 PM »

If Trump and his band of trash do more stuff like this...It should help him...





http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/20/will-the-mormon-churchs-support-for-muslim-immigration-block-trumps-victory
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2016, 07:07:17 PM »

If Romney endorses, then sure.
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« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2016, 07:15:21 PM »

If Utah's GOP leaders announce their support for Johnson, sure.

If they just stay on the verge of #NeverTrump-dom, then no.

I don't know what Utah's statutes are, but I have wondered why they just don't name a state of unpledged Republican electors?
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2016, 07:27:48 PM »

If Trump is down by more than 10 nationally and Johnson is endorsed by some combination of Romney, Orrin Hatch, Mike Lee, and Gary Herbert, then sure.
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2016, 07:34:07 PM »

A chance?  Sure.  A likelihood?  Probably not.  If Trump completely alienates the Mormon voters (a distinct possibility), Johnson will get quite a bit of them.  But so will McMullin; Utah is probably the only state where he'll get any kind of significant vote.  The net result would probably be a Clinton victory before a Johnson one.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2016, 07:40:10 PM »



Wow--- just wow. So now Trump's new campaign adviser from Breitbart is going full tilt against the LDS religious hierarchy and the 4th largest Christian Denomination in the US because they support religious tolerance and diversity?

If this is actually a real campaign strategy it looks like it could clearly backfire among members of the faith, let alone senior members of the church hierarchy.

If the Trump campaign has a "Mormon Problem" it is best to not address it through the medium of sleazy internet sensationalist websites, but rather through normal means such as dialogue, mutual respect and tolerance, rather than attempt to continue to pander to those evangelical Christians in the South, Midwest, and elsewhere that still continue to consider the Mormon religion a "cult".
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2016, 07:43:01 PM »

That new Breitbart article, a line of lashing out long expected to be coming, is a fine time to remember that Mormons don't just make up a huge % of Utah, but also carry a few important % in Nevada and Arizona.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 07:53:29 PM »

I don't see it, unless McMullin catches fire and pulls 20%+ of the vote while simultaneously Hillary loses a bunch of voters to both Johnson and Stein. There just aren't a whole lot of socially conservative Mormon Republicans willing to vote for a pro-choice, pro-marijuana legalization candidate.

Bizarre hypothetical because why not:

Johnson 25%
Trump 23%
McMullin 21%
Clinton 20%
Stein 11%
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2016, 07:58:40 PM »

That new Breitbart article, a line of lashing out long expected to be coming, is a fine time to remember that Mormons don't just make up a huge % of Utah, but also carry a few important % in Nevada and Arizona.

Not to mention a significant proportion of the population throughout the entire West (Oregon, Washington, Idaho, etc...)

Although none of these are "swing states" it will create a longer term impact, even if Trump looses in '16 because of the perception that the Republican Party is no longer a welcoming home for religious minorities, and within a community that has seen a huge amount of Religious persecution and intolerance over the past 100+ years, this will not be forgotten, even if the Republicans nominate a more "generic Republican" candidate in 2020.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 09:53:12 AM »

No, very slim chance. Maybe if Mitt endorses and campaigns.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 11:20:02 AM »

No chance at all.  It's possible for Johnson to spoil the race, giving Clinton a high-30s plurality.  For every Utahan who votes Johnson as a protest, there will be one who sees a vote for Johnson as a vote for Trump, and goes for Clinton.
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 03:26:11 PM »

Not really. But that this is even a topic should be terrifying for The Donald.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 03:30:19 PM »

Sadly, it seems like Trump is in the clear in the state:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ppppolls/status/767809714415624192
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