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« on: August 22, 2016, 08:02:45 PM »

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/08/22/trumpmilitary/

One person interviewed was the son of Jim Webb, Jim Webb Jr. who is a Trump supporter.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 08:06:19 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 08:08:08 PM by LittleBigPlanet »

Because they're sick of establishment's wars all over the world.

But insulting of Khan family was dumbest thing Trump ever did.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 08:09:37 PM »

I imagine his support is mostly in the infantry/grunts and the ones that are good at soldiering but not at much else in the military. At least that's how it is with the people I know.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 08:11:01 PM »

This vet isn't supporting him. Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 09:05:09 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 09:14:10 PM by ProudModerate2 »

One of the vets in the article says :
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 09:13:31 PM »

Must have a pretty dark heart.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 09:17:18 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 09:29:18 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Yes and no.

A vote for Trump transcends politics because it makes you an apologist for racism, bigotry, and prideful ignorance.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 09:30:58 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Some are just ignorant, though the ignorance is often colored by bigotry
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 09:33:30 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Yes and no.

A vote for Trump transcends politics because it makes you an apologist for racism, bigotry, and prideful ignorance.

I don't agree; there are two less than appetizing choices this year.  People are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.  But if what you say is true, a vote for Clinton transcends politics because it makes you an apologist for dishonest in high office and intimidating victims of domestic violence/sexual assault into silence.  I would also argue that my case is clearer than your case.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 10:12:54 PM »

How veterans vote is less about their professions and more about their background and identity. Just look at the typical categories that predict voting behavior, like age, gender, race, income, and education. Veterans are mostly white, male, middle-incomed, and older; aka they are more Republican and conservative than the population.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 10:37:31 PM »

Veterans are not usually against war.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 11:12:59 PM »

Because they're sick of establishment's wars all over the world.

But insulting of Khan family was dumbest thing Trump ever did.
Khan put himself in the political arena.  Anyone who does that is fair game for a rebuttal.  And Trump went fairly easy on him, by Trump standards.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 11:18:53 PM »

Because they're sick of establishment's wars all over the world.

But insulting of Khan family was dumbest thing Trump ever did.
Khan put himself in the political arena.  Anyone who does that is fair game for a rebuttal.  And Trump went fairly easy on him, by Trump standards.

I was unaware that questioning a gold star parent's loyalties, attempting to string him together with the group that killed his own son was going "fairly easy."

Trump does not rebuttal. That requires careful thought and concise language. He just throws tantrums at people he doesn't like for the things they say about him regardless of their standing or the quality of their criticisms.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2016, 12:56:17 AM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Yes and no.

A vote for Trump transcends politics because it makes you an apologist for racism, bigotry, and prideful ignorance.

I don't agree; there are two less than appetizing choices this year.  People are doing the best they can with what they have to work with.  But if what you say is true, a vote for Clinton transcends politics because it makes you an apologist for dishonest in high office and intimidating victims of domestic violence/sexual assault into silence.  I would also argue that my case is clearer than your case.

Trump is the only presidential candidate in any party this year who

1. Has been accused of rape, from his ex wife, a woman who said she was 13 at the time and kept quiet due to threats, and a third woman.

2. Whose attorney's defense was literally "You cannot rape your spouse."

3. Whose response to rape in the military (most victims are men, btw) is "What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?"

4. Has actually campaigned on racism, bigotry and prideful ignorance.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2016, 01:40:21 AM »

Because they're sick of establishment's wars all over the world.

But insulting of Khan family was dumbest thing Trump ever did.
Khan put himself in the political arena.  Anyone who does that is fair game for a rebuttal.  And Trump went fairly easy on him, by Trump standards.

I was unaware that questioning a gold star parent's loyalties, attempting to string him together with the group that killed his own son was going "fairly easy."
Trump does not rebuttal. That requires careful thought and concise language. He just throws tantrums at people he doesn't like for the things they say about him regardless of their standing or the quality of their criticisms.

Yes.
And let's not forget about his initial attack on the mother/wife (Mrs Kahn).
She was so distraught about her son's death and nervous on stage, she did not say a word at the DNC. But yet trump felt it was "proper" to attack her, based on her religion.
Disgusting.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2016, 06:48:41 AM »

How veterans vote is less about their professions and more about their background and identity. Just look at the typical categories that predict voting behavior, like age, gender, race, income, and education. Veterans are mostly white, male, middle-incomed, and older; aka they are more Republican and conservative than the population.

Is this a personal hypothesis or has somebody analysed veteran voting practices against a control group and found no significant difference?
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2016, 06:53:52 AM »

I'm pretty sure Trump has the support of the veterans who tortured prisoners in Abu Ghraib.
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2016, 11:38:22 AM »

US Veterans are not usually against war.
Corrected this for you. Which is incidentally why the veterans should be backing Clinton. I guess even they tired of endless and futile attempts to rearrange the Middle East to the warmongers whims.
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2016, 12:48:32 PM »
« Edited: August 23, 2016, 12:50:11 PM by ag »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2016, 02:45:10 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2016, 05:08:16 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?

My posts, most definitely, reflect who I am Smiley
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2016, 05:11:18 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?

My posts, most definitely, reflect who I am Smiley

Well I can at least respect you for giving your honest opinion then.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2016, 06:06:35 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?

My posts, most definitely, reflect who I am Smiley

Well I can at least respect you ...

Not, really, necessary Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2016, 07:59:38 PM »


My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Is this meant as irony? Or are you really such an ugly, spiteful, and cruel - in a word, Trump-like - person?
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