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« on: August 22, 2016, 08:50:30 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2016, 08:55:17 PM »

"Got to make sure those niggas don't get out and vote for that bitch Hillary"
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2016, 08:57:09 PM »

"You know what I'm talking about."

These are really chilling implications. When the actions urged on by a demagogue can't yet even be said aloud, the regime he plans is horrifying.
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2016, 09:01:53 PM »

I hope they do, they'll get arrested for voter intimidation and illegally campaigning in an voting spot. Would be a big insult to the injury of the Trump landslide loss.
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2016, 09:09:54 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 09:13:10 PM by NOVA Green »

I think that there should be election monitors aggressively patrolling precincts in heavily Trump type neighborhoods to make sure they don't vote two or three times for their kids and grand-kids that are away in college....

The only case of election fraud that I am aware of is a former coworker 15-20 years ago who didn't care to fill in her vote-by-mail ballot (Because she didn't have opinions or support either candidate) and her dad did it for her, without even asking who she wanted to vote for by proxy, and he was a hardcore Limbaugh style Republican in the mid '90s.

Real story.

Just sayin'....


Edit: I wasn't even a Democrat nor had ever voted Democrat for President when this happened, since I always voted Green, Socialist, or Lib for president in my younger years. So not a hacked BS made up story, but talking about how *REAL* voter fraud is committed in America.

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2016, 10:48:15 PM »

I cant believe he actually gets away with saying things like this.
He is obviously "pushing" for his supporters to intimidate people who are trying to do one of the most important rights we have as Americans ..... vote.
He is disgusting !
I cant wait for this orange-haired clown to go down, come November.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2016, 10:51:07 PM »

He is setting his supporters up for a massive disappointment. I'm a bit afraid of how some people will react to his loss.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2016, 11:04:28 PM »
« Edited: August 22, 2016, 11:09:01 PM by wolfsblood07 »

I cant believe he actually gets away with saying things like this.
He is obviously "pushing" for his supporters to intimidate people who are trying to do one of the most important rights we have as Americans ..... vote.
He is disgusting !
I cant wait for this orange-haired clown to go down, come November.

The corrupt Democratic bosses in big cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit have been perpetrating intimidation and fraud for decades.  So now an honest Republican  (Donald Trump) comes along and merely suggests that we (his supporters) be diligent and go out and vote and keep an eye out for fraud, and report it to authorities.  What's wrong with that?  Anybody without 2 forms of ID should be denied from voting.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2016, 11:11:56 PM »

I say that everyone should keep their county clerk or elections supervisor in their contact list. Any Trump supporter "watching" voters should be reported to the authorities and escorted away from the polling place.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2016, 11:15:42 PM »

I cant believe he actually gets away with saying things like this.
He is obviously "pushing" for his supporters to intimidate people who are trying to do one of the most important rights we have as Americans ..... vote.
He is disgusting !
I cant wait for this orange-haired clown to go down, come November.

The corrupt Democratic bosses in big cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia and Detroit have been perpetrating intimidation and fraud for decades.  So now an honest Republican  (Donald Trump) comes along and merely suggests that we (his supporters) be diligent and go out and vote and keep an eye out for fraud, and report it to authorities.  What's wrong with that?  Anybody without 2 forms of ID should be denied from voting.


I do love Republican projection.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2016, 11:22:16 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2016, 11:29:18 PM »

I hope they do, they'll get arrested for voter intimidation and illegally campaigning in an voting spot. Would be a big insult to the injury of the Trump landslide loss.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2016, 11:33:47 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is talking about.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2016, 11:34:48 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is talking about.
You can read his mind now too?
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2016, 11:40:07 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is talking about.
You can read his mind now too?

Not real hard to, since his supporters are dumb bigots, he can't be real nuanced.
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« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2016, 11:40:53 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is talking about.
You can read his mind now too?

Not real hard to, since his supporters are dumb bigots, he can't be real nuanced.
Be careful, or InvisbleObama will report you for being mean.
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« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2016, 11:41:09 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

Yeah, that's exactly what Trump is talking about.
You can read his mind now too?

Who needs to? He has a mental filter that couldn't strain gravel.
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« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2016, 11:52:22 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 11:55:45 PM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.
It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?

Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2016, 12:00:26 AM »

As we've discussed in IRC, this will probably be blocked by the courts.
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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2016, 12:05:02 AM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.
It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?

Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.

In a vacuum, I probably agree -- although your example might be a little hyperbolic, since I think BLM's tolerance for negative attention probably stops before interfering with people voting.  But you seem to be presuming I'm arguing that the right is more politically violent than the left.  I didn't say anything like that.  In fact, I agree that the left seems to feel more moral license to do stuff like that right now.  What I am arguing is that Trump is saying stuff that is irresponsible, self-centered, and stupid.  

If you're counter-arguing that I'm wrong to focus on what Trump is saying and not what BLM might do...Trump is the Republican nominee and you are voting for him for President of the United States, so frankly I care about his terrible judgment a lot more than I do BLM activists'.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2016, 12:05:54 AM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.

It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?
Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.

Now, you are just being stupid and trollish. Typical for you.
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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2016, 12:08:24 AM »

As we've discussed in IRC, this will probably be blocked by the courts.

If it's an official program, probably. But the courts can't stop an open-carry nuts from going to the polls and intimidating voters on their own until after the fact.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2016, 12:12:43 AM »

You guys are aware that precincts require people to stand like a couple hundred feet away, right? Even if a hundred Trump supporters show up with signs, they'll be so far away from the doors that no reasonable person would be intimidated. And if they went over the line (usually marked with traffic cones), a police officer will be on hand to keep them back.

Again, I am far more worried that the BLM movement might pull their usual tactics of blocking critical places. They shut down a bridge in San Francisco on rush hour, they blocked Department Stores on black Friday and shoved shoppers who tried to enter anyway, and they frequently enter crowded cafes and stores to make their points. While I am on the whole supportive of the movement, lets be real here about who is more likely (if at all) to go out and cause trouble on election day.

Of course, the hysterical Clinton-klan and their conspiracy theories cannot be met with any form of logical or civil debate, but whatever, keep on making up stories if it makes you guys feel safe.

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.

It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?
Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.

Now, you are just being stupid and trollish. Typical for you.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Another angry young white male liberal hurling insults and eventually, probably punches. Menace!

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.
It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?

Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.

In a vacuum, I probably agree -- although your example might be a little hyperbolic, since I think BLM's tolerance for negative attention probably stops before interfering with people voting.  But you seem to be presuming I'm arguing that the right is more politically violent than the left.  I didn't say anything like that.  In fact, I agree that the left seems to feel more moral license to do stuff like that right now.  What I am arguing is that Trump is saying stuff that is irresponsible, self-centered, and stupid.  

If you're counter-arguing that I'm wrong to focus on what Trump is saying and not what BLM might do...Trump is the Republican nominee and you are voting for him for President of the United States, so frankly I care about his terrible judgment a lot more than I do BLM activists'.
I think the whole thread is hyperbolic, though. There isn't polling fraud nor is there widespread voter fraud. If Trump loses, which he most likely will unless Clinton implodes (which is still, IMO, a possibility that shouldn't be discounted).

Of course, Atlas Democrats, 90% of whom are one year newbie trolls, will keep making these stupid threads and I think it is correct to note that if anyone is inclined to act violently at the polls, it is the BLM movement. As I mentioned, I am supportive of Black Lives Matter and I think their voice should be taken more seriously by Trump, and I don't think that BLM will cause any disruption on election day. But given their history, or worse, the history of the young white male Bernie supporters (remember Nevada?), I think if anyone is going to be facing intimidation at the polls, it will be Trump supporters.

As we've discussed in IRC, this will probably be blocked by the courts.

If it's an official program, probably. But the courts can't stop an open-carry nuts from going to the polls and intimidating voters on their own until after the fact.
Yes, the Black Panther Party is known for their support and use of the open-carry laws.
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2016, 12:14:17 AM »

Poll watching is a thing. It happens with every campaign. I spent five hours at the polls in 2012 before heading to the election night party.

I would never send untrained vigilante "poll watchers" to a polling place like Trump is suggested.  Any campaign that does that is going to end up with some of their most paranoid, inappropriate people showing up.  There are official programs for poll watchers for a reason.

It is far, far more likely that BLM protesters start showing up on election day and forming a human chain around polling stations in suburban white precincts. Have you not followed this election at all? Have you seen who is committing most of the political violence?
Hint, hint: young rich white kids backing Bernie.

Now, you are just being stupid and trollish. Typical for you.

I don't want to be a jerk, but I think it's a bad idea to respond with ad hominems instead of simple counterarguments, no matter how unreasonable you think he's being. 

It's part of why Presidential years here suck.  Person A thinks Person B is being unreasonable, so they just attack Person B instead of responding.  Person B (or an ally) gets mad and feels unjustly treated, so he feels justified in attacking Person A.  Then it becomes a downward spiral of people feeling entitled to be hostile instead of engaging on substance.
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