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« Reply #100 on: August 25, 2016, 02:42:09 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Delusion is a serious issue.
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« Reply #101 on: August 25, 2016, 02:42:21 PM »

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The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

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« Reply #102 on: August 25, 2016, 02:42:28 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

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Weren't you saying like one month ago that Quinnipiac was trash and that we shouldn't believe the polls. But ever since Quinnipiac has been showing favorable Clinton numbers which don't match up to many polls recently, you act like its the bees-knee and 'The Queen' is slaying that racist, egotistical, mean man.
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« Reply #103 on: August 25, 2016, 02:42:42 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"
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« Reply #104 on: August 25, 2016, 02:43:13 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Where is she wrong? And what demonstrable, empirical evidence do you have to support the claim that is's "over for Hillary Clinton" and that "she's lost"?
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« Reply #105 on: August 25, 2016, 02:43:45 PM »

https://twitter.com/jbouie/status/768895942829277184

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« Reply #106 on: August 25, 2016, 02:44:27 PM »

Great speech. I can't wait to see Little Donny's crybaby Twitter response.
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« Reply #107 on: August 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Where is she wrong? And what demonstrable, empirical evidence do you have to support the claim that is's "over for Hillary Clinton" and that "she's lost"?

You have to unskew the polls.
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« Reply #108 on: August 25, 2016, 02:45:40 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Where is she wrong? And what demonstrable, empirical evidence do you have to support the claim that is's "over for Hillary Clinton" and that "she's lost"?

The best part of this speech is that every claim is rooted in a factual aspect of Trump's campaign. There is no way out without admitting to these aspects or to change them altogether so that the speech is no longer valid, but then doing that is acknowledging everything she claimed from the get-go. This was a powerful and laser point speech.
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« Reply #109 on: August 25, 2016, 02:46:31 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Quinnipiac says hello
Weren't you saying like one month ago that Quinnipiac was trash and that we shouldn't believe the polls. But ever since Quinnipiac has been showing favorable Clinton numbers which don't match up to many polls recently, you act like its the bees-knee and 'The Queen' is slaying that racist, egotistical, mean man.

That's the whole point, even Quinnipiac, Trump's most favorable non-daily tracker, has Clinton comfortably ahead
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« Reply #110 on: August 25, 2016, 02:46:36 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
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« Reply #111 on: August 25, 2016, 02:47:17 PM »

The candidate that has no problem spewing the "N" word has no moral authority to attack Trump or the 31 million readers of Breitbart.com.

She really is a piece of work.

Alternatively, the poster regurgitating unsubstantiated smears has no right to pass judgement. Who's the real piece of work here?
That story has been substantiated over and over and over again. Hillary's racism and temper is very well documented.

It's ok Seriously?, her speech will be over soon, it will all be over soon...

Seriously? is seriously panicking.

He's short-circuiting something fierce.
If by short circuiting, you mean laughing at the red avatar response about this hackish speech, you are correct. This won't change the needle one bit.
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« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2016, 02:47:23 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Quinnipiac says hello
Weren't you saying like one month ago that Quinnipiac was trash and that we shouldn't believe the polls. But ever since Quinnipiac has been showing favorable Clinton numbers which don't match up to many polls recently, you act like its the bees-knee and 'The Queen' is slaying that racist, egotistical, mean man.

Quinnipiac is never overly favorable to Democrats and has a slight Republican house effect, so it's big news that they have Clinton leading. Plus, they switched to a likely voter sample for the newest poll.
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« Reply #113 on: August 25, 2016, 02:48:48 PM »
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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and that Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.
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« Reply #114 on: August 25, 2016, 02:50:40 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and the Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.

So saying the illegal immigrants here are all criminals and rapists is not racist? So kicking all muslims out of the country isn't racist? K, gotcha kiddo.
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« Reply #115 on: August 25, 2016, 02:52:42 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and the Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.

When he questioned Judge Curiel's ability to be on the bench because "he's Mexican"?

When he claimed almost all Mexicans that came over the border were "rapists and murderers"?

When he tweeted a taco bowl to congratulate Hispanics?

When he was sued by the Justice Department for racist treatment of minority customers and employees?

When he played dumb about not knowing about White Nationalism?

When he spearheaded the birther movement to try and delegitimize President Obama just a few years ago?

I mean, I can keep going if you want me to, but you're too blinkered to see it if you haven't already.
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« Reply #116 on: August 25, 2016, 02:53:10 PM »

Guys Trump never said "I'm a racist", so you have nothing.
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« Reply #117 on: August 25, 2016, 02:53:42 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and the Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.

So saying the illegal immigrants here are all criminals and rapists is not racist? So kicking all muslims out of the country isn't racist? K, gotcha kiddo.
That's NOT what Trump said. He never equated all illegal immigrants as violent criminals.

He never said that he wanted to "kick all Muslims out of the country," either.

Technically, however, ILLEGAL immigrants that are here ILLEGALLY are criminals in that they are breaking our immigration laws, but I digress. And the US can create whatever immigration policy it wishes.
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« Reply #118 on: August 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Where is she wrong? And what demonstrable, empirical evidence do you have to support the claim that is's "over for Hillary Clinton" and that "she's lost"?

The best part of this speech is that every claim is rooted in a factual aspect of Trump's campaign. There is no way out without admitting to these aspects or to change them altogether so that the speech is no longer valid, but then doing that is acknowledging everything she claimed from the get-go. This was a powerful and laser point speech.

Knowing Trump and his supporters, they will simply double-down, deny-deny-deny, and project their own racism onto Clinton and Democrats ("White Southern Democrats were the racists 60 years ago, therefore they're the racist party!"). I don't think Trump frequented Alt-Right websites or was necessarily aware of the movement at all, but he does espouse most of their views and has made bedfellows with them. This was an undeniably powerful speech, wherein she made direct connections between Trump's stated views and rhetoric and what is espoused daily on the dressed up White Supremacist Nationalist, Racist Racialist, far-right. There's really no way out for Trump, nor do I believe he'll even try to refute it.
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« Reply #119 on: August 25, 2016, 02:55:56 PM »

The candidate that has no problem spewing the "N" word has no moral authority to attack Trump or the 31 million readers of Breitbart.com.

She really is a piece of work.

Alternatively, the poster regurgitating unsubstantiated smears has no right to pass judgement. Who's the real piece of work here?
That story has been substantiated over and over and over again. Hillary's racism and temper is very well documented.

It's ok Seriously?, her speech will be over soon, it will all be over soon...

Seriously? is seriously panicking.

He's short-circuiting something fierce.
If by short circuiting, you mean laughing at the red avatar response about this hackish speech, you are correct. This won't change the needle one bit.

No, but it will solidify it......
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« Reply #120 on: August 25, 2016, 02:56:39 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and the Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.

So saying the illegal immigrants here are all criminals and rapists is not racist? So kicking all muslims out of the country isn't racist? K, gotcha kiddo.
That's NOT what Trump said. He never equated all illegal immigrants as violent criminals.

He never said that he wanted to "kick all Muslims out of the country," either.

Technically, however, ILLEGAL immigrants that are here ILLEGALLY are criminals in that they are breaking our immigration laws, but I digress. And the US can create whatever immigration policy it wishes.

Where is the proof Trump didn't say that? I saw him say it, I need PROOF of your LIES. I can talk in your vocabulary/way too!
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« Reply #121 on: August 25, 2016, 02:57:13 PM »

Trump could literally say that he hates a minority group, and still wouldn't be racist in the eyes of many of his supporters. He'd be "telling it like it is" or "fighting political correctness."
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« Reply #122 on: August 25, 2016, 02:57:41 PM »

This speech is ludicrously cringeworthy. Plus considering Trump has already countered this speech before it's even started!

I'd have to say it's over for Hillary Clinton. She's lost.

Where is she wrong? And what demonstrable, empirical evidence do you have to support the claim that is's "over for Hillary Clinton" and that "she's lost"?

The best part of this speech is that every claim is rooted in a factual aspect of Trump's campaign. There is no way out without admitting to these aspects or to change them altogether so that the speech is no longer valid, but then doing that is acknowledging everything she claimed from the get-go. This was a powerful and laser point speech.

Knowing Trump and his supporters, they will simply double-down, deny-deny-deny, and project their own racism onto Clinton and Democrats ("White Southern Democrats were the racists 60 years ago, therefore they're the racist party!"). I don't think Trump frequented Alt-Right websites or was necessarily aware of the movement at all, but he does espouse most of their views and has made bedfellows with them. This was an undeniably powerful speech, wherein she made direct connections between Trump's stated views and rhetoric and what is espoused daily on the dressed up White Supremacist Nationalist, Racist Racialist, far-right. There's really no way out for Trump, nor do I believe he'll even try to refute it.

Just play his actual speeches, we have video, can't refute that.
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« Reply #123 on: August 25, 2016, 03:00:02 PM »

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-- Donald J. Trump

The Donald is right. Racist Hillary Clinton has no business attacking Americans this way because we don't believe in her failed ideology.

Too bad he really is racist, can't deflect it. The people that don't care are pretty racist themselves anyways.

Proof of his "racism?"

Go listen to the moron speak. Go to any message board of FB or reddit and see the Trumpers spew white nationalism and hatred of the brown/black folk. I know to you but to normal people it's not.
Again, I asked you for proof that Trump was a racist. Not what a small percentage of his supporters think. I guarantee you a small percentage of Hillary's supporters think that women should be forced to wear burkas and the Israel is the devil.

So one more time.. proof of racism with Trump's OWN words.

When he questioned Judge Curiel's ability to be on the bench because "he's Mexican"?

When he claimed almost all Mexicans that came over the border were "rapists and murderers"?

When he tweeted a taco bowl to congratulate Hispanics?

When he was sued by the Justice Department for racist treatment of minority customers and employees?

When he played dumb about not knowing about White Nationalism?

When he spearheaded the birther movement to try and delegitimize President Obama just a few years ago?

I mean, I can keep going if you want me to, but you're too blinkered to see it if you haven't already.
Oh I'd love to hear more about this Justice Department suit, Do you have a link?

The rest of your assertions are nonsense. But I do agree with you, Trump should have gone after Curiel because he was an Mexican-American DEMOCRAT hack of a judge. A partisan that wouldn't give him a fair shake.
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« Reply #124 on: August 25, 2016, 03:02:37 PM »

Trump could literally say that he hates a minority group, and still wouldn't be racist in the eyes of many of his supporters. He'd be "telling it like it is" or "fighting political correctness."

All of these people denying Trump's racism can only do that because they've never personally experienced what it is like to be from an oppressed minority group, nor have they ever cared to try sympathizing with the perspective of minorities. So, to them, they feel nothing when Trump labels an entire group as rapists and murderers or ties all Muslims to terrorism. It's like when White people watch those old TV shows and films that have elements of racial animus and stereotypes embedded in them and when people object to the insensitivity, they scoff at it. This is an example of what is meant by White privilege - that you can listen to Trump and not notice the obvious racism in his rhetoric.
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