Dim Tim Kaine help in Virginia?
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Lyin' Steve
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« on: August 23, 2016, 10:13:04 AM »
Hillary is consistently scoring double-digit leads in Virginia nowadays.  It's moved from tossup/lean-D to New Jersey numbers.

But I thought Nate Silver told me a hundred times that there's no historical evidence for VPs helping in their state?
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 10:14:14 AM »
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2016, 10:14:43 AM »
Quote from: Lyin' Steve on August 23, 2016, 10:13:04 AM
Hillary is consistently scoring double-digit leads in Virginia nowadays.  It's moved from tossup/lean-D to New Jersey numbers.

But I thought Nate Silver told me a hundred times that there's no historical evidence for VPs helping in their state?

He didn't say that, actually, and there's no evidence yet that Kaine will have a greater impact than the average running mate.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 10:16:57 AM »
No, it was mostly Trump freaking out suburban whites with his racist rhetoric and unhinged remarks, particularly his feud with the Khan family.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 10:17:25 AM »
Did he help... sure, at least some.

Did he make it go from competitive to NJ... no, that was Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 10:27:37 AM »
He may have added a point or two, but Trump is an awful fit for Virginia, especially Northern Virginia.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 10:31:14 AM »
Trump's feud with Khan can account for Clinton's surge in Virginia all by itself.  Wanna drop 8 points in the commonwealth?  Insult the military.
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 10:34:59 AM »
He probably gave Hillary a bit of a boost, but Trump's implosion among educated voters made a bigger impact.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 10:48:48 AM »
Quote from: Penelope on August 23, 2016, 10:16:57 AM
No, it was mostly Trump freaking out suburban whites with his racist rhetoric and unhinged remarks, particularly his feud with the Khan family.
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 10:50:58 AM »
I'd say yes, but just a little, as Trump was already struggling big time in Northern Virginia.
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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2016, 10:55:50 AM »
I hear Dim Kaine is all the rage at trendy restaurants in Virginia.
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« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2016, 11:02:48 AM »
Yes, but it also help if your opponent attacks gold star families.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2016, 11:46:18 AM »
Lmao Dim Tim or Dim Kaine.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2016, 03:39:58 PM »
Quote from: xīngkěruì on August 23, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
He probably gave Hillary a bit of a boost, but Trump's implosion among educated voters made a bigger impact.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2016, 02:15:24 PM »
Quote from: ElectionsGuy on August 23, 2016, 03:39:58 PM
Quote from: xīngkěruì on August 23, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
He probably gave Hillary a bit of a boost, but Trump's implosion among educated voters made a bigger impact.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 02:16:05 PM »
He's pretty dim all right.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 05:33:21 PM »
He helped, but I'm not sure she needed it.  That said, her other VP candidates may have stolen some of her spotlight, so Kaine is sort of the perfect candidate for her purposes.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 05:36:27 PM »
A little, I'm sure. But the terrible polling numbers are Trump's own fault.
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 05:38:10 PM »
Quote from: Yank2133 on August 23, 2016, 10:27:37 AM
He may have added a point or two, but Trump is an awful fit for Virginia, especially Northern Virginia.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2016, 07:53:25 PM »
  Only slightly. Virginia is a lost cause anyways because of all the white liberals that have moved to the northern part of the state. 
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