Hillary could be only the 4th person to win all 13 original colonies
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« on: August 23, 2016, 09:24:59 PM »
Based on the polling in South Carolina and Georgia, Hillary Clinton could the (only 4th!) person to win all 13 original colonies!

The other 3 being:
-George Washington
-Franklin Roosevelt ('36, '40, '44)
-Ronald Reagan ('84)
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2016, 09:50:03 PM »

That would be nice.

https://www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/videos/1224147697641757/
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2016, 09:53:52 PM »
Monroe?
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2016, 09:58:09 PM »
I think he lost one EV somewhere, I want to say New Hampshire.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2016, 10:12:22 PM »
That would be dope.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2016, 10:14:35 PM »
she'll be lucky to take GA, and simply won't win SC.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2016, 10:21:41 PM »
Yeaaaaaaaa !
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2016, 10:31:30 PM »
Nope
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2016, 10:35:36 PM »
AT MOST she'll take 12/13, but it'll be most likely just be 11/13
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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2016, 11:56:19 PM »
Not gonna happen.
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2016, 12:13:35 AM »
They totally butcher Rhode Island's territory in that map (and take away from Connecticut too!) Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2016, 12:19:30 AM »
In the absolute best case scenario for her, it could happen, but it's more likely she just gets all of them from North Carolina up.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2016, 12:20:42 AM »
It's unlikely, but it's within the realm of possibility.
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2016, 12:23:44 AM »
I don't think she wins GA or SC, but let's be real here. Hillary has a better chance of winning SC than Trump does of winning WI.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2016, 01:12:27 AM »
She might win the original Georgia even if she loses the state, depending, but the bigger chunk of North Georgia that'll harm her statewide is probably within the original boundaries.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2016, 05:32:02 AM »
She has a good chance of winning the combined vote of Virginia and West Virginia, as long as the historical difference in turnout holds up.
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2016, 07:14:06 AM »
Quote from: Badger on August 23, 2016, 10:14:35 PM
she'll be lucky to take GA, and simply won't win SC.

You see, you're wrong on the second one.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2016, 07:33:24 AM »
South Carolina isn't happening, and Georgia is probably also a bit of a stretch (but could happen).
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2016, 07:36:04 AM »
North Carolina will be difficult, Georgia even more so, South Carolina just ain't happening (Sorry LLR).
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2016, 07:37:06 AM »
Quote from: Southern Gothic on August 24, 2016, 07:36:04 AM
North Carolina will be difficult, Georgia even more so, South Carolina just ain't happening (Sorry LLR).
Quote from: whitesox130 on August 24, 2016, 07:33:24 AM
South Carolina isn't happening, and Georgia is probably also a bit of a stretch (but could happen).

If Clinton leads by 8 nationally by election day (not a farfetched idea at all), she is without a doubt winning South Carolina. Clinton winning South Carolina is easily more likely than Trump winning the election at this point.
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2016, 08:09:40 AM »
Quote from: LLR on August 24, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Southern Gothic on August 24, 2016, 07:36:04 AM
North Carolina will be difficult, Georgia even more so, South Carolina just ain't happening (Sorry LLR).
Quote from: whitesox130 on August 24, 2016, 07:33:24 AM
South Carolina isn't happening, and Georgia is probably also a bit of a stretch (but could happen).

If Clinton leads by 8 nationally by election day (not a farfetched idea at all), she is without a doubt winning South Carolina. Clinton winning South Carolina is easily more likely than Trump winning the election at this point.

Clinton won't win by 8 unless something greatly disrupts the equilibrium in late October.  We're settling in on a 5-6 point victory, which puts Clinton's ceiling at 2012+NC+AZ+GA, and her floor at 2012-OH-FL-IA.

It's almost September, which is usually when the map starts to come into focus.  I don't see SC going to Clinton on that map.
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2016, 10:10:47 AM »
I think SC is pretty unlikely, but it's not totally implausible at this point. Which is weird.
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2016, 10:27:21 AM »
Quote from: Eleven on August 24, 2016, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: LLR on August 24, 2016, 07:37:06 AM
Quote from: Southern Gothic on August 24, 2016, 07:36:04 AM
North Carolina will be difficult, Georgia even more so, South Carolina just ain't happening (Sorry LLR).
Quote from: whitesox130 on August 24, 2016, 07:33:24 AM
South Carolina isn't happening, and Georgia is probably also a bit of a stretch (but could happen).

If Clinton leads by 8 nationally by election day (not a farfetched idea at all), she is without a doubt winning South Carolina. Clinton winning South Carolina is easily more likely than Trump winning the election at this point.

Clinton won't win by 8 unless something greatly disrupts the equilibrium in late October.  We're settling in on a 5-6 point victory, which puts Clinton's ceiling at 2012+NC+AZ+GA, and her floor at 2012-OH-FL-IA.

It's almost September, which is usually when the map starts to come into focus.  I don't see SC going to Clinton on that map.

There's plenty of time left; a two point shift (in either direction) relative to the late August polling average does not require any huge disruptions.  Heck, it could even happen on election day itself and I wouldn't be inordinately surprised.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2016, 10:32:11 AM »
Now, we just need some appropriately clumsy response from Trump so we can get a repeat of this ad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-VPzUazQVY

(Obviously not going to happen with Trump such a committed New Yorker, but a man can dream.)
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2016, 10:42:39 AM »

Still won the state, just like Nixon won Virginia in 1972, but one faithless elector voted for Hospers.
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