Paul Ryan and Hillary Clinton team up to support Anti-Poverty Plan

[Blue3]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-paul-ryan-poverty-plan-227207

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[swf541]

Seems like a good idea

[Dr. Arch]

Look at that. She hasn't even been elected yet, and she's already reaching bipartisan agreements.

[Lyin' Steve]

As I've said before, Clinton and Ryan are two of a kind, they should get along surprisingly well.

[Devout Centrist]

As I've said before, Clinton and Ryan are two of a kind, they should get along surprisingly well.

I would think so, but regardless, 2018 could be a bloodbath.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

If this is a sign that congress is actually going to start being functional again post-Obama, yet another reason to be #NEVERTRUMP.

[NeverAgain]

If this is a sign that congress is actually going to start being functional again post-Obama, yet another reason to be #NEVERTRUMPIMWITHHER.

[Santander]

Bumper sticker policies like "10-20-30" sound good, but they shackle the government's ability to do its job properly.

[dspNY]

This is actually one of the clearest signs yet of a solid Clinton win. The other unmistakable sign is if Garland gets a hearing after Labor Day when congress comes off recess

[Antonio the Sixth]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

[Sir Mohamed]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

If the GOP loses approximately 15 seats or, I see a decent chance. The question is whether enough Dems would vote in its favor.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Bumper sticker policies like "10-20-30" sound good, but they shackle the government's ability to do its job properly.

It's just saying 10%, as imperfect as this standard is, these places do most definitely need help.  There will still be plenty of opportunity for help for places that don't fit this criteria.

[Devout Centrist]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

Say the Republicans lose 15 seats. If all the Dems side with it, they only need about 20 or so votes.

[Mehmentum]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

Say the Republicans lose 15 seats. If all the Dems side with it, they only need about 20 or so votes.

That would require Ryan to break the Hastert Rule.

[Frodo]

I want to believe that President Hillary Clinton and congressional Republicans can work together at least on infrastructure investments (as well as fighting poverty), but how do you square the OP's article with this?

GOP plots early wake-up call for Clinton
Looking past Election Day, Republicans sketch plan to stymie a President Hillary Clinton agenda.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-presidency-gop-plan-227427#ixzz4IZO6n6Yg

[Indy Texas]

The Republicans haven't learned a thing. I guarantee you that on Election Night, you'll have presumptive Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his retainers sitting in some leather-and-mahogany steakhouse in Georgetown ranting about how "WE WILL MAKE HILLARY CLINTON A ONE TERM PRESIDENT!"

Even if Paul Ryan is actually serious about this, what makes you think he can corral the Freedom Caucus into doing anything when they'll likely make up a larger percentage of the GOP caucus simply because a lot of the non-insane Republicans will have lost reelection to Democrats?

[Vosem]

The Republicans haven't learned a thing. I guarantee you that on Election Night, you'll have presumptive Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and his retainers sitting in some leather-and-mahogany steakhouse in Georgetown ranting about how "WE WILL MAKE HILLARY CLINTON A ONE TERM PRESIDENT!"

Of course, that's why we vote for them. (Two qualifiers -- McConnell is a very calm man who will not be "ranting", and I would not be so sure that he will not still be Majority Leader).

Even if Paul Ryan is actually serious about this, what makes you think he can corral the Freedom Caucus into doing anything when they'll likely make up a larger percentage of the GOP caucus simply because a lot of the non-insane Republicans will have lost reelection to Democrats?

The HFC is a minority of Republicans that doesn't matter to some extent. The question is whether he can corral your typical Republican that's not an HFC member (but is maybe somewhat sympathetic to them) and sits in a very conservative seat that voted for Romney by more than 15%, where the greatest challenge to reelection comes from within the party. If he can get those types, the Hastert Rule won't be broken and it can be done over the HFC's objections.

[OneJ]

It may seem virtually impossible,...


...but it is now more important than ever to gain House majority. All we have to rely on is Trump proving to society that he is mentally unstable then Democrats will do more than keep the presidency and gain the Senate control.

[Figueira]

If this works, my faith in humanity will be partially restored.

[VPH]

I hope this is passed.

[Misoir]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

[Torie]

Focusing on counties rather than localities is a mistake. Some counties are very diverse.

[Misoir]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

Guys, I can't. Where does this stupid come from? My head hurts and my heart aches.