Paul Ryan and Hillary Clinton team up to support Anti-Poverty Plan

[hurricanehink]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

No. In the 1950s when America was supposedly great, you could get a factory job the minute you turned 18. Alternatively, many of the New Deal programs helped employ people through the 60s, and the benefits of those projects we are still reaping today. But those factory jobs have been replaced with automation, and government projects aren't what they used to be. So a generation of people got degrees, but the jobs they wanted weren't there. Meanwhile, the failed trickle down Reaganomics led to the rich getting richer and the poor staying about the same. The middle class was hurt even more by the Great Recession, and many of those jobs are not coming back. Immigrants are often the entrepreneurs who start new jobs, since they can look at our system from the outside and see a way in. It's not a handout when the under class has so little power, and they're wanting more help from the government that's supposed to be designed to help everyone, not for the richest Americans.

[Misoir]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

No. In the 1950s when America was supposedly great, you could get a factory job the minute you turned 18. Alternatively, many of the New Deal programs helped employ people through the 60s, and the benefits of those projects we are still reaping today. But those factory jobs have been replaced with automation, and government projects aren't what they used to be. So a generation of people got degrees, but the jobs they wanted weren't there. Meanwhile, the failed trickle down Reaganomics led to the rich getting richer and the poor staying about the same. The middle class was hurt even more by the Great Recession, and many of those jobs are not coming back. Immigrants are often the entrepreneurs who start new jobs, since they can look at our system from the outside and see a way in. It's not a handout when the under class has so little power, and they're wanting more help from the government that's supposed to be designed to help everyone, not for the richest Americans.

Oh here we go with the same old tired class warfare bit. That's all you liberals have left. Why not just admit that all these welfare hand-out programs were a total failure and only created a culture of dependency? Now all these young people just want to be taken care of and are terrified of lifting a finger to work. They'd rather go tens of thousands of dollars into debt getting useless degrees than and expect there to be a pot of gold handed to them at the end of their magical rainbow. We've all had to work hard. That's how life is. And the only way to better your life is to work harder and get the government out of people's way so they can hire and invest more money. Instead you liberals just want to throw around the money of people who actually earned their wealth through hard work then call them greedy when they don't want to keep supporting you.

[swf541]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

No. In the 1950s when America was supposedly great, you could get a factory job the minute you turned 18. Alternatively, many of the New Deal programs helped employ people through the 60s, and the benefits of those projects we are still reaping today. But those factory jobs have been replaced with automation, and government projects aren't what they used to be. So a generation of people got degrees, but the jobs they wanted weren't there. Meanwhile, the failed trickle down Reaganomics led to the rich getting richer and the poor staying about the same. The middle class was hurt even more by the Great Recession, and many of those jobs are not coming back. Immigrants are often the entrepreneurs who start new jobs, since they can look at our system from the outside and see a way in. It's not a handout when the under class has so little power, and they're wanting more help from the government that's supposed to be designed to help everyone, not for the richest Americans.

Oh here we go with the same old tired class warfare bit. That's all you liberals have left. Why not just admit that all these welfare hand-out programs were a total failure and only created a culture of dependency? Now all these young people just want to be taken care of and are terrified of lifting a finger to work. They'd rather go tens of thousands of dollars into debt getting useless degrees than and expect there to be a pot of gold handed to them at the end of their magical rainbow. We've all had to work hard. That's how life is. And the only way to better your life is to work harder and get the government out of people's way so they can hire and invest more money. Instead you liberals just want to throw around the money of people who actually earned their wealth through hard work then call them greedy when they don't want to keep supporting you.

Why cant we just ban these trump bots yet?  They're seriously screwed up in everything.

So let me propose a question, I've worked my ass for years in college, graduated with a near perfect GPA, have applied for plenty of jobs that i am either qualified or over qualified for and i have yet to get a single response yet, this is my fault and not the issue that certain regions of the country havent recovered at all and its rather difficult to start a career in this day and age for many of people due to socio-economic climate that we are in due to 30+ years of idiotic governance and policy setting among  other factors.

[Misoir]

Look at that. Paul Ryan already prepared to sell out the country to crooked Hillary. Good thing she won't be elected president. We can't afford another stupid, wasteful anti-poverty program because the last 50 years of these failed programs have really worked out so well. Idiots.

It is frankly embarrassing that your sentiment is shared by a sizeable group of others.

Do you dispute the reality of cyclical/generational poverty? Do you think all of your success comes from your inherent merits? Ick.

Today poverty is a result of laziness and bad personal decisions. All this free trade and mass immigration doesn't help either. They throw the doors open to anyone who wants to come and take American jobs. Even illegal aliens. Then they send our jobs overseas to all these third world countries to get rich. Once we build that wall, kick out the illegals and stop sending all our jobs to Vietnam and China then there wouldn't be anymore excuses for being poor. If you're poor it's because you want to be. Get off your butt and work 2 or 3 jobs if you have to. Quit making excuses and waiting around with your hand out.

No. In the 1950s when America was supposedly great, you could get a factory job the minute you turned 18. Alternatively, many of the New Deal programs helped employ people through the 60s, and the benefits of those projects we are still reaping today. But those factory jobs have been replaced with automation, and government projects aren't what they used to be. So a generation of people got degrees, but the jobs they wanted weren't there. Meanwhile, the failed trickle down Reaganomics led to the rich getting richer and the poor staying about the same. The middle class was hurt even more by the Great Recession, and many of those jobs are not coming back. Immigrants are often the entrepreneurs who start new jobs, since they can look at our system from the outside and see a way in. It's not a handout when the under class has so little power, and they're wanting more help from the government that's supposed to be designed to help everyone, not for the richest Americans.

Oh here we go with the same old tired class warfare bit. That's all you liberals have left. Why not just admit that all these welfare hand-out programs were a total failure and only created a culture of dependency? Now all these young people just want to be taken care of and are terrified of lifting a finger to work. They'd rather go tens of thousands of dollars into debt getting useless degrees than and expect there to be a pot of gold handed to them at the end of their magical rainbow. We've all had to work hard. That's how life is. And the only way to better your life is to work harder and get the government out of people's way so they can hire and invest more money. Instead you liberals just want to throw around the money of people who actually earned their wealth through hard work then call them greedy when they don't want to keep supporting you.

Why cant we just ban these trump bots yet?  They're seriously screwed up in everything.

So let me propose a question, I've worked my ass for years in college, graduated with a near perfect GPA, have applied for plenty of jobs that i am either qualified or over qualified for and i have yet to get a single response yet, this is my fault and not the issue that certain regions of the country havent recovered at all and its rather difficult to start a career in this day and age for many of people due to socio-economic climate that we are in due to 30+ years of idiotic governance and policy setting among  other factors.

Assuming you didn't get some useless liberal arts degree then you can thank your fuhrer Obama for the stagnant economy. Almost 8 years and he still can't get anything accomplished. Our economy won't grow and he keeps on inviting in all these illegals and other immigrants to take what jobs are left. Then you want to point fingers at the people burdened with outrageous taxes and regulations and blame them? LMAO shows how much your degree was worth. I'd ask for my money back.

[ProudModerate2]

[Torie]

Let's see. Young people are too lazy to work given all these welfare handouts, so they go into debt to get a useless college degree, and then expect handouts. It is interesting that the loci of welfare dependency is apparently with college graduates. Who knew?  The solution of course is to just shut down colleges, and force all those young punks to go work when they turn 18 at Walmart, preferably the night shift. That way the streets will be safer at night as a bonus. Even better make them work two shifts. That way they will only have time to work, eat and sleep. And with that schedule they may even have some money left over to fund an IRA, so they won't have any free time to spend money on anything other than what keeps them alive. Perfect!

[Badger]

If this is a sign that congress is actually going to start being functional again post-Obama, yet another reason to be #NEVERTRUMP.

[Badger]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

Say the Republicans lose 15 seats. If all the Dems side with it, they only need about 20 or so votes.

That would require Ryan to break the Hastert Rule.

Good. I hope so. A long overdue reform.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

As part of a budget, it can pass the House - even without breaking the Hastert rule - and it can pass the Senate. The problem is more a more fundamental one of passing any budget aside from a CR that both houses of Congress and Clinton can agree on.

[Coolface Sock #42069]

I doubt this would ever pass a through Republican House, even if Ryan throws his weight behind it.

If the GOP loses approximately 15 seats or, I see a decent chance. The question is whether enough Dems would vote in its favor.

No way Ryan would break the Hastert rule for this.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I love how people claim to have this amazing understanding of what Ryan will and will not do when he's been speaker for less than a year.